Using convolution for Laplace transform

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The discussion revolves around the application of the convolution theorem in the context of Laplace transforms. The original poster seeks to demonstrate a specific inverse Laplace transform involving a convolution integral.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the Laplace transform of a convolution and the product of individual Laplace transforms. There are attempts to clarify the definitions and rules associated with convolution in this context.

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Some participants have provided insights into the convolution theorem and its implications for the problem at hand. There are ongoing questions about the specific rules for convolution and how to apply them to the integral form presented. The discussion remains open with various interpretations being explored.

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There are mentions of potential confusion regarding the placement of the thread in the forum, indicating a concern about proper categorization of the topic. Additionally, some participants express uncertainty about the integral limits and the definitions involved in the convolution process.

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Homework Statement


Using convolution theorem for Laplace theorem,, show that


Homework Equations


inverse Laplace transform (1/(S^3/2*(s-1)) = (2*e^t)/Pi^1/2 intregral (from 0 to t) e^-x*x^1/2dx.


The Attempt at a Solution



The inverse Laplace above is a product of 1/s^3/2 and 1/(s-1)

and both terms are the Laplace transform of 2/Pi^1/2*t^1/2 and e^t respectively.

changing variable t = u gives:2/Pi^1/2*u^1/2 and e^u

using convolution: integral (from 0 to infinity) e^-st integral (from 0 to t)
(2/Pi^1/2*u^1/2 )(e^u)du dt.

I don't know how to go about with the integral from here onwards..Help!
 
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The "convolution theorem" you are told use says that the Laplace transform of a convolution of functions is the product of the Laplace transforms of the functions. Isn't that exactly what you need here?
 
I am sorry but I don't really get you. Laplace transform of a convolution of functions is the product of the Laplace transforms of the functions.

Isnt that what I am trying to do. finding the product of the inverse Laplace (which as given) and converting the products to its functions.

Is there a rule or formula for convolution theorem of Laplace theorem?
 
sensitive said:

Homework Statement


Using convolution theorem for Laplace theorem,, show that


Homework Equations


inverse Laplace transform (1/(S^3/2*(s-1)) = (2*e^t)/Pi^1/2 intregral (from 0 to t) e^-x*x^1/2dx.


The Attempt at a Solution



The inverse Laplace above is a product of 1/s^3/2 and 1/(s-1)

and both terms are the Laplace transform of 2/Pi^1/2*t^1/2 and e^t respectively.
Good. You are saying that [itex]\frac{1}{s^{3/2}}\frac{1}{s-1}[/itex] is the product of the Laplace transforms of [itex]\frac{2}{\sqrt{\pi t}}[/itex] and [itex]e^t[/itex]. You also know that the Laplace transform of a convolution is the product of the individual functions. So [itex]\frac{1}{s^{3/2}}\frac{1}{s-1}[/itex] is the Laplace transform of the convolution of [itex]\frac{2}{\sqrt{\pi t}}[/itex] and [itex]e^t[/itex]. If you can show that the convolution of those function is equal to [itex]\frac{2e^t}{\sqrt{\pi}}\int_0^t e^{-x\sqrt{x}}dx[/itex], you are done!

By the way, what "Precalculus" class deals with the Laplace transform?
 
My problem now is to prove it because now the function has integral form 0 to t where does that come from?

Is there a convolution rule that i need to know to be able to prove it?

And I am so sorry if I post it in the wrong section. Under which section should post this Laplace problems? thx.
 
First what is the DEFINITION of the convolution of two functions? I think that is the formula you need.

Second, this should be in "Calculus and Beyond". I will go ahead and move it.
 
Oh I just found an appropriate section for this problem. Sorry for posting the problem at the wrong area. I'll make sure Ill post any problem/s in the appropraite sectionnext time.
 
There was some typing error, in the original equation.

inverse Laplace transform (1/(S^3/2*(s-1)) = (2*e^t)/Pi^1/2 intregral (from 0 to t) (e^-x)*(x^1/2)dx.

The inverse Laplace above is a product of 1/s^3/2 and 1/(s-1)

and both terms are the Laplace transform of (2/Pi^1/2)*t^1/2 and e^t respectively.

Using convolution theorem,
integral (from 0 to infinity) e^-st (integral (from 0 to t) f (t - x)*g(x)dx)dt

putting the Laplace transform it becomes
integral (from 0 to infinity) e^-st (integral (from 0 to t) (e^ (t - x))*(2/Pi^1/2)*x^1/2dx)dt

But can I do this,
(integral (from 0 to infinity) e^-st dt)*(integral (from 0 to t) (e^ (t - x))*(2/Pi^1/2)*x^1/2dx)dt

If i can do that then it is already proven
(2*e^t)/Pi^1/2 intregral (from 0 to t) (e^-x)*(x^1/2)dx.
 
Well, actually i don't think I can do the following:
(integral (from 0 to infinity) e^-st dt)*(integral (from 0 to t) (e^ (t - x))*(2/Pi^1/2)*x^1/2dx)dt

I think the integration
integral(from 0 to infinity) of e^-st*(integral (from 0 to t) (e^ (t - x))*(2/Pi^1/2)*x^1/2dx)dt using integration by parts

integration of e^-st (from 0 to infinity), will give 1.

hence and leaving (integral (from 0 to t) (e^ (t - x))*(2/Pi^1/2)*x^1/2dx)

am I right? I hope I am making sense.
 

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