Engineering Using Kirchhoff's laws to find current in a circuit

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The discussion revolves around using Kirchhoff's laws to find the currents I1 to I3 in a circuit. The user initially calculated I1 using Kirchhoff's Voltage Law (KVL) and obtained a value of 1.5A, but encountered discrepancies when applying Kirchhoff's Current Law (KCL). It was noted that the user had only two equations for three unknowns, making it insufficient to solve for all currents. The suggestion was made to derive a third KCL equation from another node in the circuit for a complete solution. Ultimately, the user resolved their confusion with the help of the forum.
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Homework Statement


Use KCL and KVL to determine the currents I1 to I3 in the circuit below:

aodth.png

Homework Equations



Ʃv_{n} = 0
Ʃi_{n} = 0
v=ir

The Attempt at a Solution


I got two different answers for I_{1} using the two different laws. I'm not sure if I'm doing it right.

KVL @ loop 1: -18 + 6 + 8I_{1} = 0
8 I_{1} = 12
I_{1} = 1.5AKCL @ node a: 3 = I_{1} + I_{2} + 1
KCL @ node b: I_{3} = 1 + I_{2}
0 = I_{1} + I_{2} -2
0 = -1 - I_{2} + I_{3}
1 = I_{3}
0 = I_{2}
2 = I_{1}
 
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november1992 said:

Homework Statement


Use KCL and KVL to determine the currents I1 to I3 in the circuit below:

aodth.png

Homework Equations



Ʃv_{n} = 0
Ʃi_{n} = 0
v=ir


The Attempt at a Solution


I got two different answers for I_{1} using the two different laws. I'm not sure if I'm doing it right.

KVL @ loop 1: -18 + 6 + 8I_{1} = 0
8 I_{1} = 12
I_{1} = 1.5A


KCL @ node a: 3 = I_{1} + I_{2} + 1
KCL @ node b: I_{3} = 1 + I_{2}



0 = I_{1} + I_{2} -2
0 = -1 - I_{2} + I_{3}
1 = I_{3}
0 = I_{2}
2 = I_{1}

Your KVL solution for I1 is correct. For the KCL solution, you have 3 unknowns but you have only written 2 equations. That isn't sufficient to solve for I1 yet...
 
Could I substitute the value that I got for I1 from the KVL equation into KCL?
I wasn't sure if I could do that because I thought the question was asking me to find the values separately using the two different laws.
 
november1992 said:
Could I substitute the value that I got for I1 from the KVL equation into KCL?
I wasn't sure if I could do that because I thought the question was asking me to find the values separately using the two different laws.

It does sound like they want you to solve the circuit with each technique separately. It's a pretty easy circuit to solve by inspection anyway, so they must want you to go through all the steps of each technique separately for practice.

So can you see another node where you could write a 3rd KCL equation?
 
The one between the 8 ohm and 4 ohm resistor?
 
november1992 said:
The one between the 8 ohm and 4 ohm resistor?

That might work...
 
nvm I figured it out, thanks for the help.
 
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