Using substitution to turn a series into a power series.

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The problem involves using a substitution \( y(x) \) to transform a series dependent on a real number \( x \) into a power series and subsequently finding the interval of convergence. The series in question is \[ \sum_{n=0}^\infty \left(\sqrt{x^2+1}\right)^n \frac{2^n}{3^n + n^3}. \]

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the ratio test after substituting \( y = \sqrt{x^2 + 1} \) into the series. They express concern over a logical inconsistency encountered while determining the interval of convergence, particularly after squaring inequalities. Some participants question the validity of squaring both sides of an inequality and suggest that it does not preserve solutions. Others discuss the implications of the square root being non-negative and how that affects the interpretation of the inequalities.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the algebraic manipulations and the implications of squaring inequalities. There is recognition of the original poster's correct numerical answer for the interval of convergence, but confusion remains regarding the logical consistency of the steps taken to arrive at that conclusion. Participants are exploring the nuances of solving inequalities and the proper treatment of square roots.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the original poster is grappling with the implications of their algebraic manipulations, particularly in the context of inequalities and the properties of square roots. There is an acknowledgment of the potential for misunderstanding in the steps leading to the conclusion about the interval of convergence.

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Homework Statement


The problem asks to use a substitution y(x) to turn a series dependent on a real number x into a power series and then find the interval of convergence.

<br /> \sum_{n=0}^\infty (<br /> \sqrt{x^2+1})^n <br /> \frac{2^n<br /> }{3^n + n^3}

Homework Equations


After making a substitution, the book asks you to find pn, then take the limit as n approaches infinity. Basically just the ratio test.

The Attempt at a Solution


I got the right numerical answer for the interval of convergence, but I encountered a pretty bad logical inconsistency. I am pretty sure I've made an algebra mistake, but I can't find anything online that has roots, rational inequalities and absolute values all in the same problem, so I have turned to the lovely people at physicsforums.com.

Just to be thorough I'll include every step of the entire problem in case (a) the mistake is in the series manipulation or (b) some other error was made that I missed. I suspect, however, that I have a fundamental algebra misunderstanding.The most obvious substitution here for me was
y=\sqrt{x^2+1}
so putting that in I have:
<br /> \sum_{n=0}^\infty<br /> y^n <br /> \frac{2^n<br /> }{3^n + n^3}

so then pn

p_n = \left |<br /> \frac {y^{n+1} \text{ } <br /> 2^{n+1}<br /> }{3^{n+1} + (n+1)^3} \frac {3^n + n^3}<br /> {y^n \text{ } <br /> 2^n} \right |

p_n = \left |<br /> \frac {y^n \text{ }y \text{ } <br /> 2^n \text{ }2<br /> }{3^n \text{ }3 + n^3 + 3n^2 + 3n + 1} \frac {3^n + n^3}<br /> {y^n \text{ } <br /> 2^n} \right |
I always do that ^ so it's easier to see what cancels.

p_n = \left |<br /> \frac {2y(3^n + n^3)<br /> }{3^n \text{ }3 + n^3 + 3n^2 + 3n + 1} \right |

Next I divided everything by 3n.

p_n = \left |<br /> \frac {2y(1 + \frac{n^3}{3^n})<br /> }{3 + \frac{n^3}{3^n} + \frac{3n^2}{3^n} + \frac{3n}{3^n} + \frac{1}{3^n}} \right |So then I have that p = the limit of the above as n goes to infinity, which should be:

p = \left |<br /> \frac {2}{3}y \right |
since an exponential increases way faster than a polynomial.

So, that means the interval of convergence is going to be, if I understand it correctly, \left |<br /> \frac {2}{3}y \right |&lt;1
(not including the endpoints, which must be tested separately.

This is where I think I'm the most lost. As I understand it correctly, normally this would mean:

<br /> -1&lt; \frac {2}{3}y &lt;1

Putting x back in gives

<br /> -1&lt; \frac {2}{3} \sqrt{x^2+1} &lt;1Moving the 2/3 over:

<br /> -\frac {3}{2} &lt; \sqrt{x^2+1} &lt; \frac {3}{2}Squaring everything:

<br /> \frac {9}{4} &lt; x^2+1 &lt; \frac {9}{4}Then getting the 1 on the other side:
<br /> \frac {5}{4} &lt; x^2 &lt; \frac {5}{4}and lastly taking the root to solve for x:
<br /> \frac {\sqrt{5}}{2} &lt; x &lt; \frac {\sqrt{5}}{2}And what is this madness? How can x be both less than and greater than the same number?Incidentally, according to the textbook answers, the interval of convergence is
|x|&lt;\frac {\sqrt{5}}{2}

so I have the right number. But somewhere along the line I lost logical consistency.Hopefully someone can see where I messed up and enlighten me about the mistake I'm making. Thanks for reading and responding!
 
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Battlemage! said:
Squaring everything:

You don't preserve the solutions to an inequality when you square both sides.

(-2) < (-1) doesn't imply (-2)(-2) < (-1)(-1)

<br /> -1&lt; \frac {2}{3} \sqrt{x^2+1} &lt;1
could be written as 0 &lt; \frac {2}{3} \sqrt{x^2+1} &lt;1 or simply as \frac {2}{3} \sqrt{x^2+1} &lt;1 since the square root must be non-negative.
 
Stephen Tashi said:
You don't preserve the solutions to an inequality when you square both sides.

(-2) < (-1) doesn't imply (-2)(-2) < (-1)(-1)could be written as 0 &lt; \frac {2}{3} \sqrt{x^2+1} &lt;1 or simply as \frac {2}{3} \sqrt{x^2+1} &lt;1 since the square root must be non-negative.
Thanks (Weird that I couldn't find anything on this online).

But that still leaves one small conundrum. What is the interval of convergence?
0 \text{ to } \frac {\sqrt{5}}{2}? But as I said the solution for this problem in Boas 3rd ed. according to a solutions book says that the interval of convergence is still an absolute value, namely
|x| &lt;\frac {\sqrt{5}}{2}EDIT- A thought just occurred to me. When solving for x here, I eventually end up with

x^2 &lt;\frac {5}{4}

In middle school we learned that the solution for x2 = 4 was x = 2 or x = -2. Is it something that simple? Would taking the square root give me
x &lt;\frac {\sqrt{5}}{2}
or
x&gt;-\frac {\sqrt{5}}{2}

and could that save me?
 
You have the right idea, but aren't expressing it precisely. The square root of a quantity (if that square root exists) is a non-negative number. It isn't "plus or minus" some number.

The solutions to an equation or an inequality are often found by "doing the same thing to both sides of it", but this is not a completely reliable process. You have to think before you act and you can't always find the solutions by "doing the same thing to both sides".

A correct way to solve the equation ##x^2 = 25 ## is think about the possibilities and realize that this equation is has the same solutions as the equation ##|x|^2 = 25##. You can take the square root of both sides of that equation without losing track of the solution x = -5.

If you try to solve ##x^2 = 25## by taking the square root of both sides, you can still save the situation if you realize that ##\sqrt{x^2} = |x| ##.

The misconception that a square root can be "plus or minus" is just a garbled way of describing the above process.
 

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