Vector Components physics homework

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The discussion revolves around determining the x and y components of a force vector, specifically a 40 lb force making an angle of 120 degrees counterclockwise from the -y direction. Participants are exploring the correct application of trigonometric functions to resolve the vector into its components.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants share their methods for calculating the components using trigonometric functions. There are questions about the correctness of the approach and the interpretation of the angle in relation to the coordinate axes. Some participants suggest drawing diagrams to avoid mistakes in identifying angles.

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The discussion is active, with participants confirming their calculations and questioning the assumptions made regarding the angle's reference point. Guidance has been offered regarding the use of diagrams and the importance of correctly identifying angles in relation to the axes.

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There is mention of potential confusion regarding the quadrant in which the vector lies and the corresponding angles used in calculations. Participants are encouraged to clarify their understanding of the angle's reference point and its implications for the component calculations.

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Determine the x and y components. A 40 lb force vector that makes an angle of 120 degree counterclockwise from the -y direction.

I did Ax= (40)(-cos120 degree) and Ay= (40)(sin120 degree)

I got the right answer, I just want to make sure that this is the correct way of solving the problem.
 
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Susanem7389 said:
Determine the x and y components. A 40 lb force vector that makes an angle of 120 degree counterclockwise from the -y direction.

I did Ax= (40)(-cos120 degree) and Ay= (40)(sin120 degree)

I got the right answer, I just want to make sure that this is the correct way of solving the problem.

I read your earlier thread with Tiny_Tim and noticed that you wanted a rule as to when to use the formulas he suggested. When I was teaching, I used to tell my students to draw a careful diagram and label the angles the vector makes with each axis and work then use trigonometry to find the projection of the vector on to the axes. I think that way you will make fewer mistakes.
 
Okay. Thank you. Also, was the way I solved the problem correct?
 
Susanem7389 said:
Determine the x and y components. A 40 lb force vector that makes an angle of 120 degree counterclockwise from the -y direction.

I did Ax= (40)(-cos120 degree) and Ay= (40)(sin120 degree)

I got the right answer, I just want to make sure that this is the correct way of solving the problem.

Well, you said that you got the right answer, but I'm puzzled. Isn't your vector in the first quadrant making a 30 degree angle with the x axis?

Your solution is appropriate for a vector that makes an angle of 120 degrees with the Positive X axis.
 
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Yes, it is. I must have done something wrong with the equation. How would I fix it?
 
The x-component of A is [tex]\hat x \cdot \vec A[/tex] (which is equal to [tex](1)|A|\cos\theta_{\mbox{\small between $\vec A$ and $\hat x$}}[/tex]).
The y-component of A is [tex]\hat y \cdot \vec A[/tex] (which is equal to [tex](1)|A|\cos\theta_{\mbox{\small between $\vec A$ and $\hat y$}}[/tex]).

You can also express the components as
[tex]A_x=A\cos\theta[/tex]
[tex]A_y=A\sin\theta[/tex]
where [tex]\theta[/tex] is the counterclockwise angle from the positive-x axis.
Note that this angle is in the range [tex]0\leq \theta < 360^\circ[/tex] (and so [tex]-1\leq \cos\theta\leq 1[/tex] and [tex]-1\leq \sin\theta\leq 1[/tex]).

The above are the best facts to remember.
If you need to work with other angles, you need to draw a good picture and express the given angle in terms of the angles above [and possibly use some trig identities, especially if you want a general formula using some other choice of angles or axes].

So, for instance, if you are given a counterclockwise angle [tex]\phi[/tex] with respect to the -y axis, what is the corresponding counterclockwise angle [tex]\theta[/tex] from the +x-axis?
 
It would be the same numbers for both however the positive x direction, both the x and y component would be positive and for the negative y direction, both the x and y component would be negative. Thank you for your help.
 

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