Vector Manipulation (Orthogonal and Parallel Vectors)

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The discussion revolves around the manipulation of vectors, specifically focusing on finding two vectors, v and w, such that a = v + w, where v is parallel to vector b and w is orthogonal to vector b. The vectors involved are a = <2, 4, -3> and b = <4, -5, 6>.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the vectors, particularly how to express v as a scalar multiple of b. There are attempts to derive w from the equation a - v and ensure that w is orthogonal to b by using the dot product. Some participants express confusion about solving for the scalar t.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing their thought processes and attempting to derive expressions for the vectors. Guidance has been offered regarding the use of the dot product to find the unknown scalar t, but there is still uncertainty about the next steps in the solution process.

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There is an emphasis on the properties of orthogonal and parallel vectors, specifically the conditions that must be satisfied for the vectors to maintain their relationships. Participants are working within the constraints of the problem without additional information or assumptions.

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Consider the vectors a=<2,4,-3> and b=<4,-5,6>. Determine vectors v and w such that a=v+w and v is parallel to b while w is orthogonal to b.The dot product of two orthogonal vectors is zero and the cross product of two parallel vectors is zero. A parallel vector is a multiple of the chosen vector.I tried using multiples of b for v and then seeing if random vectors orthogonal to b can be added to v to give a. I'm lost here.
 
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adam199 said:
Consider the vectors a=<2,4,-3> and b=<4,-5,6>. Determine vectors v and w such that a=v+w and v is parallel to b while w is orthogonal to b.The dot product of two orthogonal vectors is zero and the cross product of two parallel vectors is zero. A parallel vector is a multiple of the chosen vector.I tried using multiples of b for v and then seeing if random vectors orthogonal to b can be added to v to give a. I'm lost here.

Instead of expressing parallel as a cross product, if v is parallel to b then v must be a scalar multiple of b. So v=tb for some t. That means w=a-v=a-tb. Now w.b must be 0. Try to solve for t.
 
Dick said:
Instead of expressing parallel as a cross product, if v is parallel to b then v must be a scalar multiple of b. So v=tb for some t. That means w=a-v=a-tb. Now w.b must be 0. Try to solve for t.

I tried using w=a-tb. I dotted both sides by b, and got 0=(a-tb).b, where t is the only unknown, but I got stuck again. I'm not quite sure how to solve for t at that point.
 
adam199 said:
I tried using w=a-tb. I dotted both sides by b, and got 0=(a-tb).b, where t is the only unknown, but I got stuck again. I'm not quite sure how to solve for t at that point.

Distribute the dot product. (a-tb).b=a.b-t(b.b)=0. Now try it.
 
Dick said:
Distribute the dot product. (a-tb).b=a.b-t(b.b)=0. Now try it.

thanks
 

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