Velocity of Sound, speed of rock and return of sound

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A rock is thrown vertically towards a bell 50 meters away, and the sound of the bell is heard 4.5 seconds later. The speed of sound is given as 330 m/s, which allows for the calculation of the time it takes for sound to travel back after hitting the bell, approximately 0.15 seconds. To find the rock's velocity, the time for the rock to reach the bell must be adjusted by subtracting the sound travel time from the total time. The adjusted time for the rock's travel is about 4.35 seconds, leading to a calculated velocity of approximately 11.5 m/s. The discussion highlights the importance of correctly accounting for sound travel time in physics problems.
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Homework Statement


Rock is thrown vertically towards a bell 50m away, you hear the bell ring 4.5 seconds later, how fast was the rock travelling, assuming the speed of sound is 330m/s

Homework Equations


d=v/t

The Attempt at a Solution


I like to draw my questions out, then fill in the data, so i'll do that first, if you don't wish to see it please scroll down a bit
4.5 seconds for return of sound
<-----------------
--------------------bell
^Starting position 50m
Speed of sound 330m/s
Distance 50m
4.5 seconds for sound to return from throwing it

Now, first I wanted to find how long it would take the sound to get back after it hit the bell so I looked for time
T = D/V

T=50m / 330mps
0.15151515s

I then tried to find the velocity it would take for the rock to reach the bell on it's own,
so I looked for the time again, from which I could distract the time it took for the sound from

V = D/T
V = 50m / 4.5s
V = The rock was going for 11.11111mps IF the sound was instantaneous, I've no idea how to subtract 0.15151515s from 11.11111mps

I don't know if I missed something during instruction, but I've just started physics and this could be stupid, but I've no clue where to go from here.

The answer for checking your answer is 11.5mps
 
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hi Chrisss, welcome to PF.
Time taken by the stone to strike the bell is ( 4.5 - 0.1515) s
Now find the velocity of the stone.
 
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