# Velocity Ratios

1. Jun 25, 2013

### keyboardkowboy

1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
Three equal masses are attached to the ends and midpoint of a light uniform rod, which lies on a smooth horizontal plane. One of the end masses is struck by an impulsive force perpendicular to the direction of the rod. Find the ratios of velocities of the three masses immediately after the impulse.

2. Relevant equations

3. The attempt at a solution

This isn't course work, I am trying to brush up on some old classical mechanics.

I am uncertain as to what the mass moment of inertia of the system should be.
I tried setting the angular impulse (integral of torque by time) equal to the angular momentum of the system.

I am a little stuck.

Thanks.
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

2. Relevant equations

3. The attempt at a solution
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

2. Relevant equations

3. The attempt at a solution

2. Jun 25, 2013

### dreamLord

After the force has been applied, the center of mass will be moving with a certain velocity 'V', and at the same time the Rod will be rotating with respect to the center of mass.

Use the fact that ΔL = RΔP to obtain 'w'. See how you can use it to obtain the ratios. Remember, the mass at the center is moving with velocity 'V'. The moment of Inertia should be calculated about the center of mass (which would be the center of the rod). Does that help?

3. Jun 25, 2013

### keyboardkowboy

Yes it does help a lot. Thank you very much. I am still not coming to a solution however.

I have Icm = 1/4 * m * l^2, where l is the total length of the rod.

I use ΔL = R × ΔP = R * 3*m * V = Icm * w to solve for w. w = 6 * V / l.

Then I get the velocity of the top and bottom masses by Vtop = w * l / 2 and Vbottom = w * (-l / 2); giving me an incorrect solution.

What am I doing wrong? (The correct solution is => 5 : 2 : -1)

Thanks!

4. Jun 25, 2013

### dreamLord

The reason you are getting an incorrect answer is because your delta L equation is wrong : the RHS specifically. Think on what the final momentum is. Remember, we can replace the entire system by a point mass at the center of the rod, the velocity of which is V and mass M (by calculation of center of mass).

Also, write the velocities as V+w*l/2, V-w*l/2, V. (top mass, bottom mass, middle mass) and then take the ratio.