Verifying Stoke's Theorem for a Triangular Region

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The discussion revolves around verifying Stoke's Theorem for a triangular region, focusing on the computation of line and surface integrals involving a vector field. Participants are examining the relationship between the line integral of a vector field and the surface integral of its curl.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to compute the line integral and the curl of the vector field, expressing confusion over discrepancies in their results. Some participants suggest verifying the limits of integration for the surface integral and exploring different orders of integration.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's attempts, offering guidance on checking specific aspects of the calculations. There is an ongoing exploration of the limits of integration and the implications of the chosen method for evaluating the integrals.

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The original poster has provided images of their work, which has led to discussions about the challenges of referencing specific parts of equations in images versus using LaTeX. There is also mention of potential errors in the limits of integration that are under scrutiny.

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Homework Statement


The goal is to verify Stoke's Theorem. I've uploaded the image showing the problem and diagram. I'd like to get a double check on my work as I work on part b.

Homework Equations


Curl in cartesian coords and vector E.
Integral of E dot dl = Integral of (Curl of E) dot dS

The Attempt at a Solution


Performing the line integral first. I've uploaded my paper work because I don't know how to write it all in here.

To clarify some points, the bottom of the triangle is at y=0, the right side is y = -x+2, and the left side is y = x.

The arrows you see next to the equations represent which side of the triangle it references.

Anyway, my solution comes out to -3, but I can't seem to get a matching solution when doing the curl. I'll upload the curl work when I finish it soon.

*edit* So I've done the curl and it comes out to 1.5

What am I doing wrong? I've uploaded to Imgur because you can zoom in easier.

Problem: https://imgur.com/a/GCPYH
Line integral: https://imgur.com/a/9StaQ
Curl part 1: https://imgur.com/a/CmWlO
Curl part 2: https://imgur.com/a/ujK6F[/B]
 

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The problem with putting a lot of equations into a single image is that it's difficult to refer to a specific part of one equation in order to point out an error. With the LaTeX code, we can simply "quote" the equation in question.

In the integral of the curl, you split the surface integral into two triangular pieces. I suggest you double-check the y-limits on the second piece. Third line from the bottom of "Curl part 1".

Note that you can check this integral by doing the x and y integrations in the opposite order, that is, first x then y. In this case you can do the integral in one piece! (I did it both ways, myself.)

I haven't tried the line integral yet, but I think if you fix the surface integral, you'll find that they now agree.
 
Sorry, I'm not seeing what's wrong with the limits of integration. I assume I could also put the upper bound as y = -x+2 and the lower bound as 0, wihch would give me just for that integral, 2.

I'm not seeing why the limits aren't equivalent, though.
 
yosimba2000 said:
I assume I could also put the upper bound as y = -x+2 and the lower bound as 0
That's not what I see:
stokes.jpg

(Now do you see why we dislike embedding equations in images? :oldwink:)
 
jtbell said:
That's not what I see:
View attachment 212338
(Now do you see why we dislike embedding equations in images? :oldwink:)

Oh right, thanks! I messed up thinking about the height of the triangle.
 

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