Vertical lines on postion vs. time graphs.

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the interpretation of position vs. time graphs, particularly focusing on the implications of vertical lines in such graphs. Participants explore concepts of velocity, acceleration, and the constraints imposed by physical laws such as special relativity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that a vertical line on a position vs. time graph would imply an undefined velocity, raising the question of whether a particle could instantaneously jump from one position to another.
  • Another participant argues that such a scenario is not possible within the framework of special relativity, which states that no object can exceed the speed of light, regardless of the graph's units.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that a graph depicting such behavior may not exist and hints at future discoveries in subatomic particle motion.
  • One participant expresses confusion regarding the relationship between direction and acceleration, questioning whether an object slowing down in the negative x direction would have positive acceleration.
  • Another participant challenges this assumption by referencing the formula for acceleration, suggesting that the relationship may be the opposite of what was assumed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the implications of vertical lines in position vs. time graphs, with multiple competing views presented regarding the nature of velocity and acceleration in different contexts.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of velocity and acceleration, as well as the implications of special relativity on the discussion of instantaneous changes in position.

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I understand how position vs. time diagrams can give velocity. If the line is flat then the velocity is zero (the particle is still), and all the other basic things I need to know, but what if the line was vertical? The slope would be undefined; therefore, velocity would be undefined. In other words, could a particle jump from one position to another in no time? Perhaps the speed changes too sharply for the units on the graph?
 
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That can't be possible in special relativity which says the speed cannot exceed speed of light c, irrelevant to the unit of graph
 
no graph as such exist (until you see it 100 years later in some inter nuclear motion of those subatomic particles:TO BE DISCOVERED)
 
Thanks guys. One more thing I'm kind of confused about. If an object is slowing down in the negative x direction, then I would assume the acceleration would be positive, correct? I assume this because an object slowing down in the positive direction would have a negative acceleration.
 
Then again, If deltaV/deltaT = a, then the answer would be just the opposite.
 
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