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In a perfectly elastic collision involving a 0.440 kg ball moving east at 3.70 m/s and a 0.220 kg ball at rest, momentum and kinetic energy conservation equations are applied to find the final velocities. The momentum equation is m1v1 + m2v2 = m1v1' + m2v2', leading to 1.628 kg m/s = (0.440 kg)v1' + (0.220 kg)v2'. The kinetic energy equation is also utilized, resulting in 6.02 kg m²/s² = (0.440 kg)v1'² + (0.220 kg)v2'². A simpler approach involves using the conservation of relative velocity, where v1 - v2 = -(v1' - v2'). The discussion concludes that the problem is simpler than initially perceived, emphasizing the effectiveness of using relative velocity conservation.
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A ball of mass 0.440 kg moving east with a speed of 3.70 m/s collides head-on with a 0.220-kg mass at rest. If the collision is perfectly elastic, what is the speed and direction of each ball after the collision?

momentum conservation:
m1v1 + m2v2 = m1v1¢ + m2v2¢;
(0.440 kg)(3.70 m/s) + (0.220 kg)(0) = (0.440 kg)v1¢ + (0.220 kg)v2¢.
1.628 kg m/s = (0.440 kg)v1¢ + (0.220 kg)v2¢

elastic, kinetic energy is constant:
½ m1 v21 + ½m2 v22 = ½ m1v1’2 + ½ m2v2’2,
½ (0.440 kg)(3.70 m/s)2 + 0 = ½ (0.440 kg)v1’2 + ½ (0.220 kg)v2’2
6.02 kg m2/s2 = (0.440 kg)v1’2 + (0.220 kg)v2’2


Whats the quickest way to solve with 2 variables? This one gets a little messy because of the velocity squares.

My teacher was talking about using a derterminant. Could I use one for this question? If not, can you please given an example of a problem in which I can use one?
 
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The easiest way is to use the "conservation" of the relative velocity instead of the cons of energy. If follows from conservation of energy in the general form, combined with cons of momentum.
v1-v2 = -(v1'-v2') (all vectors). Relative velocity is reversed but it has the same magnitude.

If you did not see this before, you'll have to solve the quadratic equation.
Determinants are used in general for solving linear equations.
 
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Solve this first in the center-of-mass frame of reference, and then work back to the original frame of reference.
 
nasu said:
The easiest way is to use the "conservation" of the relative velocity instead of the cons of energy. If follows from conservation of energy in the general form, combined with cons of momentum.
v1-v2 = -(v1'-v2') (all vectors). Relative velocity is reversed but it has the same magnitude.

If you did not see this before, you'll have to solve the quadratic equation.
Determinants are used in general for solving linear equations.



wow. thank you. that was actually a very simple problem. I made it more complicated than it was.
 
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