# Very simple name-plate question

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1. Nov 13, 2015

### tim9000

If a motor is such-and-such Hp or kW, is that the Output power, or the Input power?

2. Nov 13, 2015

### davenn

from memory its the output power as measured at the driveshaft

Dave

3. Nov 13, 2015

### tim9000

Huh, ok thats a surprise.

It's funny that I'm doing a practice question where the input power as calculated from the output power + loss, is different from the rated input current multiplied by rated inut voltage.
Just thought I'd throw that in as an oddity, I don't understand how.

anyway, cheers.

4. Nov 13, 2015

### davenn

why do you think it's odd?

if they wanted to that they could take the BTU rating of the fuel, work out the power generated by the engine, subtract the losses and get an output power
in the specs listing, its a lot easier just to state it's output

Ohh and I forgot to add in the first post. the power out will usually be stated for a given rpm

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5. Nov 13, 2015

### davenn

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower

a way down that page .....

you can see my driveshaft rating in there amongst other styles .... Brake HP is the other one I'm commonly familiar with

1HP = 745.7 Watts

Dave

6. Nov 13, 2015

### tim9000

That is a good point.
What I think is odd is that I'd have thought that if you multiplied the terminal voltage by the current going into the motor, that, that'd be the total input power. However in my qustion it turned out that the output power + loss' were greater than that, hence the input was greater than VI at the terminal.

Cheers

7. Nov 13, 2015

### meBigGuy

Looking at the following arbitrary motor specs

http://www.automationdirect.com/static/specs/ironhorsesprs.pdf

the 1 hp motor draws 13.6A at 115V at Full Load, which is 1564 watts. It is then listed on the second page at 68% F.L efficiency and 0.66 F.L. power factor.

Doesn't the nameplate have the current?

8. Nov 14, 2015

### CWatters

Can you post the question word for word. In other sections of the forum (eg the homework section) this is a rule because it frequently turns out that the OP has misunderstood or misinterpreted the question.