Vibrating aluminium string

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The discussion revolves around calculating the new fundamental frequency of a steel wire when an aluminum block is partially submerged in water. Initially, the block's frequency is 300 Hz when suspended in air. The participant attempts to derive the new frequency using wave speed equations and buoyancy principles, ultimately arriving at a formula for frequency that incorporates the density of water and aluminum. Corrections are made regarding the wavelength and the approach to eliminate volume from the equations. The final calculated frequency is approximately 270 Hz, confirming the steps taken are mostly correct, with minor adjustments needed.
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Homework Statement


An aluminium block of m is hung from a steel wire of length L. The fundamental
frequency for transverse standing waves on the wire is 300 Hz. The block
is then immersed in water so that half of its volume is submerged. What is the
new fundamental frequency? (You may assume that the mass of the wire is small
compared to the mass of the block and the change in length of the wire under
different loads is negligible.)

Homework Equations



Speed of wave on a string,

v=\sqrt{\frac{T}{\mu}}

Buoyancy force

F=\rho g V

The Attempt at a Solution



\frac{fL}{2}=\sqrt{\frac{T}{\mu}}

when suspended in air,

150L=\sqrt{\frac{mg}{\mu}}

When half of its volume immersed in water,

\frac{fL}{2}=\sqrt{\frac{mg-\frac{\rho_{water}gV}{2}}{\mu}}=\sqrt{\frac{mg-\frac{\rho_{water}mg}{2\rho_{Al}}}{\mu}}

The answer I got is

f=300\sqrt{1-\frac{\rho_{water}}{2\rho_{Al}}

Subbing in values gives me a value of 270Hz...

are my steps correct?
 
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Hi kudoshinichi,

kudoushinichi88 said:

Homework Statement


An aluminium block of m is hung from a steel wire of length L. The fundamental
frequency for transverse standing waves on the wire is 300 Hz. The block
is then immersed in water so that half of its volume is submerged. What is the
new fundamental frequency? (You may assume that the mass of the wire is small
compared to the mass of the block and the change in length of the wire under
different loads is negligible.)


Homework Equations



Speed of wave on a string,

v=\sqrt{\frac{T}{\mu}}

Buoyancy force

F=\rho g V

The Attempt at a Solution



\frac{fL}{2}=\sqrt{\frac{T}{\mu}}

I think your final expression at the end of your post is correct. But this expression is not quite right; the fundamental wavelength is 2L, not L/2. However, in this problem the wavelength will cancel out.

when suspended in air,

150L=\sqrt{\frac{mg}{\mu}}

When half of its volume immersed in water,

\frac{fL}{2}=\sqrt{\frac{mg-\frac{\rho_{water}gV}{2}}{\mu}}=\sqrt{\frac{mg-\frac{\rho_{water}mg}{2\rho_{Al}}}{\mu}}

The answer I got is

f=300\sqrt{1-\frac{\rho_{water}}{2\rho_{Al}}

Subbing in values gives me a value of 270Hz...

are my steps correct?
 
Again, every line checks. Very clever of you to eliminate the unknown V that way.
Okay, I see the error Alphysicist points out. Thank you.
 
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Oh! -_-"

Carelessness... Well, I guess I need to sleep. It's 4.30am here...

Thank you for your insight! I appreciate it a lot!
 
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