Visualization of a wire & magnetic field

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The discussion centers on calculating magnetic flux inside a wire using Ampere's Law and the formula for magnetic field B. The user struggles with visualizing the relationship between two diagrams that illustrate the magnetic field and flux. The correct approach involves recognizing that magnetic flux is calculated through a surface, not "in" the wire itself, leading to the conclusion that the magnetic flux through the surface of a cylindrical current-carrying wire is zero. The derived formula for magnetic flux through a cylindrical area is confirmed as Φ_B = (μ₀iL)/(4π).

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Hi,

I'm having trouble visualizing the way to calculate magnetic flux inside a wire and I was hoping someone here could help me.

\Phi_B = \oint B \cdot dA

Inside a wire, using ampere's law, I got:

B = \frac{\mu_0 i}{2\pi}\frac{r}{R^2}

And that's where I get stuck. http://img23.photobucket.com/albums/v68/AngelOfMusic/wire.jpg" of the wire, it seems that B is perpendicular to dA everywhere.

In the book's solution, they had this perspective of the wire:

http://img23.photobucket.com/albums/v68/AngelOfMusic/wire2.jpg" And it suddenly makes sense.

I was just wondering if someone could point out to me how the two diagrams relate? I'm having trouble going from one perspective to the next.
 
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AngelofMusics said: "I'm having trouble visualizing the way to calculate magnetic flux inside a wire..."

You don't really calculate flux "in" something; you calculate flux through a surface. The magnetic flux through the surface of a cylindrical current carrying wire is zero. But I'm not sure why you want to know this.
 
I should have been more clear. I'm calculating the magnetic flux through a wire in a set up where there are two wires parallel to each other. The solution manual says:

The field a distance r from the axis of the wire is given by: B = \mu_0ir/R^2 and the flux through the strip of length L and width dr at that distance is: \frac{\mu_0 ir}{2\piR^2}Ldr. Thus, the flux through the area inside the wire is:

\Phi_B = \int_{0}^{R} \frac{\mu_0iL}{2\piR^2}rdr = \frac{\mu_0iL}{4\pi}

A question, though: Under what circumstances is the magnetic flux through a wire zero? It seems from the book's explanation that it shouldn't be zero at all.
 

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