Visualization of a wire & magnetic field

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The discussion centers on calculating magnetic flux within a wire using Ampere's law. The user struggles to visualize the relationship between two diagrams representing the wire and its magnetic field. It is clarified that magnetic flux is calculated through a surface rather than "inside" an object, leading to the conclusion that the flux through the surface of a cylindrical current-carrying wire is zero. However, the user is specifically interested in the magnetic flux in a setup with two parallel wires, where the flux can be determined using the provided equations. The conversation concludes with a query about the conditions under which the magnetic flux through a wire would be zero, suggesting a need for further clarification on this concept.
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Hi,

I'm having trouble visualizing the way to calculate magnetic flux inside a wire and I was hoping someone here could help me.

\Phi_B = \oint B \cdot dA

Inside a wire, using ampere's law, I got:

B = \frac{\mu_0 i}{2\pi}\frac{r}{R^2}

And that's where I get stuck. http://img23.photobucket.com/albums/v68/AngelOfMusic/wire.jpg" of the wire, it seems that B is perpendicular to dA everywhere.

In the book's solution, they had this perspective of the wire:

http://img23.photobucket.com/albums/v68/AngelOfMusic/wire2.jpg" And it suddenly makes sense.

I was just wondering if someone could point out to me how the two diagrams relate? I'm having trouble going from one perspective to the next.
 
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AngelofMusics said: "I'm having trouble visualizing the way to calculate magnetic flux inside a wire..."

You don't really calculate flux "in" something; you calculate flux through a surface. The magnetic flux through the surface of a cylindrical current carrying wire is zero. But I'm not sure why you want to know this.
 
I should have been more clear. I'm calculating the magnetic flux through a wire in a set up where there are two wires parallel to each other. The solution manual says:

The field a distance r from the axis of the wire is given by: B = \mu_0ir/R^2 and the flux through the strip of length L and width dr at that distance is: \frac{\mu_0 ir}{2\piR^2}Ldr. Thus, the flux through the area inside the wire is:

\Phi_B = \int_{0}^{R} \frac{\mu_0iL}{2\piR^2}rdr = \frac{\mu_0iL}{4\pi}

A question, though: Under what circumstances is the magnetic flux through a wire zero? It seems from the book's explanation that it shouldn't be zero at all.
 
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