Volt/amp Question: You Got V=14.74? I=0.72A? Need Help

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The discussion revolves around a circuit analysis problem involving voltage and current measurements, specifically focusing on readings from a voltmeter and ammeter. Participants are examining the relationships between resistances and the application of Kirchhoff's laws in the context of the circuit.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are discussing the calculation of equivalent resistances and the application of Ohm's law. Some are attempting to derive current and voltage values while questioning the methodology for measuring these values at specific points in the circuit. Others suggest using Kirchhoff's Current Law (KCL) to set up equations for solving the circuit.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing their calculations and questioning their assumptions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of KCL, but there is no explicit consensus on the best approach to take. Multiple interpretations of the circuit setup and calculations are being explored.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the information they can share or the methods they can use. There is a noted confusion regarding the application of KCL and the relationship between the circuit components.

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whats are the readings at the voltmeter and the ampmeter?
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You can see my work, I got V=14.74? and I=0.72A? I need help.
thanks.
 
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From what I can tell your equivalent resistances are ok.

If the supply is 12V - YOUR calculation for current gives you the current through R1.

This splits at the next junction - in inverse proportion to the resistances of R2 and R3.
 
I made a mistake on the resistors on my paper (so that's wrong) here's what tried.

I simplified the resistors and got 20/3 ohms plus 10ohms = 16.67ohms

then I found voltage
current

v=ir
14=Ix16.67
I=0.84 amps.

But that is the circuits current how do you find it at the metre? same sort of thing is confusing me with the voltmeter.then I went back to the volt meter with the 20 Ohm resistor so

v=IR
v=.84x20
v=16.8Volts?
 
I don't see simplificcation solving this circuit. Just write the 2 KCL equations and solve them simultaneously...
 
berkeman said:
I don't see simplificcation solving this circuit. Just write the 2 KCL equations and solve them simultaneously...

how do you do that, so you find current and voltage and plug into

i1+i2+i3...=0
v1+v2+v3=0

Im stuck.
 
brentwoodbc said:
how do you do that, so you find current and voltage and plug into

i1+i2+i3...=0
v1+v2+v3=0

Im stuck.

There are two summing nodes that I see where I would write the 2 KCL equations (sum of currents into a node must equal zero). The first node is between the two 10 Ohm resistors and the Ammeter, and the second node is on top of the final 20 Ohm resistor.

Write those two equations, and you should be able to solve the circuit. It's true that the voltage drop across an ideal ammeter is zero, so you can probably collapse the circuit and solve, but since they are asking for the I and V, my first instinct would be just to solve the full KCL, and recognize the simplification later.
 

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