Understanding Voltage Divider Equation in Op Amp Circuits

In summary, the conversation was about the calculation of voltage at the positive input of an op amp using the voltage divider method. The equation used is V+ = [(Vout-Vin)/(R1+R2)]R1+Vin. The conversation also discussed the assumptions made in the voltage divider method, particularly the assumption that Vin is 0V (ground). The lecturer explained the alternative method of using the voltage divider equation when Vin is not 0V.
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This is not a HW question.
I was watching a lecture on youtube - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke3SL_R92ys&NR=1
At 9mins into the lecture, there is a voltage divider equation.
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In the calculation of voltage at the +ve input of an op amp, the equation is
V+ = [(Vout-Vin)/(R1+R2)]R1+Vin

Why the Vin term at the end?
If you look at the feedback part as a voltage divider with 2 voltage sources, Vout at the top and Vin at the bottom. V+ would be I*R1
I = R1/(R1+R2) * (Vout-Vin)

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Because of polarity, he is assuming that Vout is the highest potential, and is calculating the current going from Vout to Vin.

He is saying he wants to find the amount of voltage dropped across R1 by calculating the current of the circuit (by ohms law as the voltage of the circuit divided by the resistance of the circuit), and then multiplying by R1, and adding that to Vin to get V+.

He alternatively could have gotten the circuit current and multiplied by R2 and then subtracted that voltage from Vo to get V+.

Your voltage divider assumes that Vin is 0V (ground). This is currently not the case, though it is how the voltage divider method is introduced as it makes calculations slightly easier.

When you do a voltage divider, you are assuming that the current in the circuit is in series, and thus equal everywhere. You can then equate this current through each resistor, by ohms law, as a voltage divided by a resistance (assuming Vin as the highest potential and Vo as the lowest potential).

(Vin - V+) / R1 = (V+ - Vo) / R2 ... cross mulitply
(Vin - V+) * R2 = (V+ - Vo) * R1 ... expand
VinR2 - V+R2 = V+R1 - VoR1 ... group similar terms
VinR2 = V+R1 + V+R2 - VoR1 ... factorize
VinR2 = V+ * (R1 + R2) - VoR1 ... rearrange
V+ = VinR2 / (R1 + R2) - VoR1

Now of course when Vo (the lowest potential) is ground and thus 0V this term goes away and you are left with the familiar voltage divider equation:

V+ = VinR2 / (R1 + R2)

However when one end of the voltage divider is not 0V, as this lecturer has assumed (since there's little point putting 0V into an Op-Amp) you have to include the voltage in your calculations.
 

1. What is a voltage divider?

A voltage divider is an electronic circuit that divides a voltage into smaller parts. It is made up of resistors connected in series, and the output voltage is determined by the ratio of the resistors' values.

2. How does a voltage divider work?

A voltage divider works by using the principle of Ohm's Law, which states that the voltage across a resistor is directly proportional to the current flowing through it. In a voltage divider, the total input voltage is divided between the resistors in proportion to their values, resulting in a smaller output voltage.

3. What is the formula for calculating the output voltage of a voltage divider?

The output voltage of a voltage divider can be calculated using the formula Vout = Vin * (R2 / (R1 + R2)), where Vin is the input voltage and R1 and R2 are the values of the resistors in the divider. This formula assumes that the resistors are connected in series.

4. How do you choose the values of resistors for a voltage divider?

The values of resistors for a voltage divider should be chosen based on the desired output voltage. The ratio of the resistors' values will determine the output voltage, so it is important to select values that will result in the desired voltage. Additionally, the resistors should have a high enough power rating to handle the voltage and current in the circuit.

5. What are some common applications of voltage dividers?

Voltage dividers are commonly used in electronic circuits to provide a specific voltage for components such as LEDs, sensors, and transistors. They are also used in power supply circuits to regulate the output voltage. Additionally, voltage dividers are used in measurement and testing equipment to scale down high voltages for safe and accurate measurements.

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