Voltage effects on power dissipated

Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the relationship between voltage and power dissipation in a lightbulb, particularly exploring how changes in voltage affect power output, while considering the characteristics of the lightbulb as a resistive element. The scope includes theoretical and practical implications of electrical principles, specifically Ohm's Law.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that if the voltage is doubled, the power will also double, assuming constant resistance, following the formula P = VI.
  • Others argue that the behavior of the lightbulb is more complex due to the temperature dependence of its resistance, particularly for materials like tungsten and carbon.
  • A participant mentions that the current could increase significantly, depending on the type of lightbulb, suggesting a range of possible current increases between 5% and 100%.
  • There is a note that the resistance of the lightbulb varies with temperature, which complicates the relationship between voltage and power.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of not exceeding the rated voltage of the lightbulb to avoid overheating or failure.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between voltage and power in lightbulbs, with some supporting a straightforward application of Ohm's Law while others highlight the complexities introduced by temperature-dependent resistance. No consensus is reached on the implications of doubling the voltage.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reveals limitations in the assumptions made about resistance remaining constant and does not resolve the mathematical implications of varying resistance with temperature. The specific characteristics of different types of lightbulbs are also noted as a factor that influences the outcome.

fresno89
Messages
2
Reaction score
0
Trying to find the relationship between voltage and power across a resistive something.

Using a lightbulb if the bulb was rated at 100W when 140 Volts is used, what would happen to the power if the voltage was doubled? (assuming the light bulb doesn't explode)
 
Engineering news on Phys.org
Welcome to PF.

If the light bulb doesn't explode, it obeys V=IR and P=VI.
 
Light bulbs aren't aware of Ohm's law.
The current would probably go up between 5% and 100%. Current would depend on rating of light bulb.
Unless of course the light bulb used a carbon filament, then the current would more than double.
 
Other then electronics 101...Watts = V^2/R ... but lightbulbs are specifcally made to give off light - not be resistors.

What C-P is alluding to is that the element of the light bulb is a resistor - but the resistance varies greatly with temperature. Tungsten has a Positive Temp coefficient - as the temp goes up the resistance goes up. A carbon element has a negative TC (as do Diodes ) so as the temp goes up the resistance goes down -

Precision resistors usually have a specific rating for this TCR.

Soooo - the better question would be - how doe the resistance of a light bulb vary over voltage - that totally depends on the lightbulb!
 


The relationship between voltage and power across a resistive element is described by Ohm's Law, which states that power (P) is equal to the product of voltage (V) and current (I), or P = VI. Therefore, if the voltage is doubled, the power will also double, assuming the resistance of the element remains constant.

In the case of the lightbulb, if it is rated at 100W when 140V is used, the current flowing through it can be calculated using Ohm's Law as I = P/V = 100/140 = 0.71A. If the voltage is doubled to 280V, the current will also double to 1.42A, resulting in a power of 200W (P = VI = 280 x 1.42 = 200W).

It is important to note that this relationship only holds true for resistive elements, as the power dissipated in other types of elements (such as capacitors or inductors) can be affected by factors such as frequency and phase difference between voltage and current.

Additionally, it is important to consider the limitations of the lightbulb and not exceed its rated voltage, as this can lead to overheating and potentially cause the bulb to explode. In cases where higher power is needed, it is recommended to use a higher wattage bulb rather than increasing the voltage.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 38 ·
2
Replies
38
Views
5K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
3K
  • · Replies 32 ·
2
Replies
32
Views
3K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
3K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
3K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
21
Views
3K
  • · Replies 36 ·
2
Replies
36
Views
5K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
5K