Volume of paraboloid using divergence theorem (gives zero)

In summary, the conversation discusses the specification of a surface in three-dimensional space by an equation and the calculation of a unit vector normal to the surface at a given point. Two methods, using Cartesian and cylindrical coordinates, are presented and it is noted that the divergence theorem only applies to closed volumes.
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Homework Statement



A surface S in three dimensional space may be specified by the equation
f(x, y, z) = 0, where f(x, y, z) is a real function. Show that a unit vector nˆ normal to
the surface at point (x0, y0, z0) is given by

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Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



r = (x, y, z)

∇f = 2(x, y, -z)

n = 1/r (x, y, -z)

dS = dx dy √[1 + (x/z)2 + (y/z)2] (1/r) (x, y, -z)

When i take r (dot) dS it gives x2 + y2 - z2 which = 0..



Method 2 (Cylindrical Coordinates)

dS = n (r dr d∅)

but this still gives 0 when n (dot) r
 
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unscientific said:
When i take r (dot) dS it gives x2 + y2 - z2 which = 0..
... which is correct for that part of the surface. But there's another part, governed by z = h.
 
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haruspex said:
... which is correct for that part of the surface. But there's another part, governed by z = h.

Ah i see, I missed out that surface entirely! (Which happens to be simply a disc)

Since divergence theorem only works for closed volumes.
 

1. What is the divergence theorem?

The divergence theorem, also known as Gauss's theorem, is a mathematical concept that relates a surface integral over a closed surface to a triple integral over the region enclosed by that surface. It is a fundamental theorem in vector calculus and is often used in physics and engineering applications.

2. What is a paraboloid?

A paraboloid is a three-dimensional surface that resembles a parabola when viewed from different angles. It can be created by rotating a parabola around its axis or by intersecting two cones with different angles. A common example of a paraboloid is a satellite dish.

3. How is the volume of a paraboloid calculated using the divergence theorem?

The divergence theorem states that the volume of a region can be calculated by evaluating the surface integral of the outward flux of a vector field over a closed surface bounding that region. In the case of a paraboloid, the vector field used is the position vector, and the closed surface is the paraboloid itself. However, in some cases, the divergence theorem may give a volume of zero, which could be due to symmetry or other factors.

4. Why might the volume of a paraboloid using the divergence theorem give zero?

The volume of a paraboloid may give zero when using the divergence theorem due to the specific shape and symmetry of the paraboloid. In some cases, the outward flux of the position vector over the closed surface may cancel out, resulting in a net flux of zero and a volume of zero. This does not mean that the paraboloid has no volume, but rather that the chosen vector field and surface do not accurately represent the volume of the paraboloid.

5. How can the volume of a paraboloid be accurately calculated?

To accurately calculate the volume of a paraboloid, other methods such as integration or geometric formulas can be used. For example, the volume of a paraboloid can be calculated by integrating the cross-sectional areas of the paraboloid along its axis. Alternatively, the volume can be calculated using geometric formulas such as the formula for the volume of a cone or the formula for the volume of a frustum of a cone.

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