Want to set up a constant magnetic field to do experiments under

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The discussion centers on setting up a constant magnetic field for concrete curing experiments, specifically using a coil magnet design. A Helmholtz coil is suggested for generating low-strength magnetic fields, but questions arise regarding the necessary induction levels and the limitations of using an iron core. The user plans to utilize a computer power supply with a 12V rail and is uncertain about managing the current load with their available copper wire. They aim to align titanomagnetite particles within the concrete to create a directional microstructure, but seek clarity on the duration for which the magnetic field should be maintained. Overall, the conversation highlights the complexities of electromagnet design and the specific requirements for their experimental setup.
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Hiya,

So I want to do some experiments with concrete curing under a magnetic field.

The samples would need to be approximately a 2" diameter tube maybe 8" long.

I'm not that aware of how a magnetic field would behave any more, been awhile since I did any physics outside of classical mechanics.

any way..

was thinking I could essentially make a coil magnet like this:

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having the concrete setting within the coil?
 
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That's what I'd try ... you'd basically be wrapping wire around whatever the concrete is sitting in and hooking it to a power source.
 
Evan, fairly low strength fields can be developed with a Helmholtz coil. You can find details under Wikipedia.
 
thanks :)
 
Helmholtz, sure... BUT what induction is needed? With an air coil and a pair of watt you get 1mT. For 1T (provided 1T has any effect on concrete...) it needs other means, especially an iron core and the proper design around it, and for >2T you've lost because the iron core doesn't help.
 
The concrete will be made with iron sand. Maybe that will provide something analogous to an iron core.
I was thinking of using a computer power supply, on the 12V rail.

Bit confused as what to do about the amp load. The power supply has maybe 15A? on that rail.

I have some 0.63mm enamel coated copper wire, not sure how much of it I have..rough calculation of two 8m lengths. This will provide about 0.8 ohms of resistance.

If I were to hook that straight up, that's 15A right there, pushing it really.

Would I add a resistor to that to cut down the current?
 
How long do you need to hold the field?
The design of electromagnet is mostly about how much current you can pass through the wires without melting them down.
 
Again, what induction? Most electromagnetic designs are impossible, yours seem to belong to this category.
 
I..don't really understand.

I want the titanomagnetite particles to align to the field...hopefully creating directional microstructure

It wouldn't need to be too long, will have to do some viscosity calculations to see how long it will take
 
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