Water Tank Differential Equation Problem

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The problem involves a water tank containing a mixture of brine and salt, where pure water is added and the mixture is drained at a constant rate. The objective is to determine the amount of salt remaining in the tank after a specified time period, given initial conditions and rates of flow.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the initial conditions and the rates of flow into and out of the tank. There is a focus on defining variables and setting up a differential equation to model the situation. Some participants express confusion about the implications of the changing concentration of brine as water is added.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the formulation of the differential equation. One participant has suggested a correction to the initial approach regarding the rate of change of brine, while another is seeking further clarification on how to express the concept mathematically.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. There is an emphasis on understanding the dynamics of the system rather than simply solving for the final amount of salt.

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Homework Statement


A tank initially contains 400 gal of brine in which 100 lb of salt are dissolved. Pure water is run into the tank at the rate of 20 gal/min, and the mixture (which is kept uniform by stirring) is drained off at the same rate. How many pounds of salt remain in the tank after 30 minutes?


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These were my variable definitions:
Let y = gallons of brine
yo=400 gal
dy/dt=-20 gal/min
Let w= gallons of water
wo= 0 gallons
dw/dt= +20 gal/min
y=yo+(dy/dt)t
y=400gal+(-20gal/min)(30min)
w=wo+(dw/dt)(t)
I was concerned because I got a negative answer
The physics side of me says that the water that is being poured in should cause the brine to leave the tank at an even faster rate but that would just give me an even more negative answer.
Thanks
 
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Well, your mistake is in saying that dy/dt=-20. This is true in the beginning. But suppose that after a certain time, the mixture in the tank is 50% brine and 50% water, then (at that time) dy/dt=-10. Thus the amount of brine that is poured away every minute decreases. Your ODE should model that...
 
ok can you take that idea a little further please? I mean get what your saying but I am struggling to express that idea in the form of an equation
 
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Well, at time t, there is y(t) gallons of brine in the water. Thus the concentration of brine in the water is y(t)/400. Since the water is flowing of at 20 gal/min, the amount of brine that pours out at time t is 20y(t)/400. Thus your differential equation is dy/dt= 20y/400.
 

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