Wave Amplitude from Line Source: Finding Amplitude at Distance '4r

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The discussion centers on determining the amplitude of a wave from a line source at a distance of '4r', given that the amplitude at distance 'r' is 'a'. Participants clarify that the wavefronts spread out cylindrically, not following the inverse square law as initially thought. The intensity of the wave is inversely proportional to the distance 'r', while the amplitude is proportional to the square root of the intensity. Consequently, the correct amplitude at '4r' is determined to be 'a/2'. The conversation emphasizes understanding the relationship between amplitude, intensity, and distance in wave propagation.
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Homework Statement


from a line source, if amplitude of a wave at a distance 'r' is'a'.then the amplitude at a distance '4r' will be what?







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i could not understand the pattern of the spreading of the wave from the line source.
 
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hi altamashghazi! :smile:
altamashghazi said:
i could not understand the pattern of the spreading of the wave from the line source.

the line is a cylinder

the wave-fronts spread out cylindrically :wink:
 
what would be change in amplitude with distance. will it obey inverse square law?
 
draw it! (from above) :rolleyes:

what happens to the field lines? :wink:
 
i think they obey this law. am i right?
 
altamashghazi said:
what would be change in amplitude with distance. will it obey inverse square law?

no!

the line is a cylinder

the wave-fronts spread out cylindrically​

draw it! (from above) …

what happens to the field lines?​
 
wave fronts will be elliptical. then also it will follow inverse square law. bcoz area of ellipse is
π*a*b
 
altamashghazi said:
wave fronts will be elliptical

why?? :confused:
 
tiny-tim said:
why?? :confused:
sorry wavefronts will be cylinderical out wards but i couldn't guess the pattern of change in amplitude.
 
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altamashghazi said:
sorry wavefronts will be cylinderical out wards

yes! :smile:

ok, then how is the surface area of a cylinder related to radius? :wink:
 
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tiny-tim said:
yes! :smile:

ok, then how is the surface area of a cylinder related to radius? :wink:

it is directly proportional to r.
A=2πr(h+r)
 
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ok :smile:, so if you draw the field lines, they'll all be radially outward,

and the number going through any wavefront will be proportional to r …

so what is the loss in strength?​
 
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tiny-tim said:
ok :smile:, so if you draw the field lines, they'll all be radially outward,

and the number going through any wavefront will be proportional to r …

so what is the loss in strength?​

it will be inversely proportional to r.
i mean answer should be a/4
 
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yup! :smile:
 
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tiny-tim said:
yup! :smile:
but its wrong the answer is a/2. therefore i m confused. pls help.
 
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oh, I'm sorry, i thought a was the intensity :redface:

the intensity (as shown by field lines) is proportional to 1/r,

and the amplitude is proportional to the square-root of the intensity :smile:
 
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tiny-tim said:
oh, I'm sorry, i thought a was the intensity :redface:

the intensity (as shown by field lines) is proportional to 1/r,

and the amplitude is proportional to the square-root of the intensity :smile:
thank u very mucch
 
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tiny-tim said:
oh, I'm sorry, i thought a was the intensity :redface:

the intensity (as shown by field lines) is proportional to 1/r,

and the amplitude is proportional to the square-root of the intensity :smile:

thank u very much
 
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