Wave interference, finding amplitude in certain situations

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving wave interference from two loudspeakers emitting sound waves of the same frequency. The problem specifically addresses how the amplitude of sound changes based on the relative positions of the speakers along the x-axis, particularly when one speaker is behind the other and when they are side by side.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the wave equations for the two speakers and discuss the implications of phase differences on amplitude. There is an attempt to clarify the relationship between wavelength and amplitude, as well as the conditions for constructive interference.

Discussion Status

Some participants are working through the mathematical relationships and attempting to derive the amplitude based on the phase difference. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the values of amplitude and wavelength, and guidance is being offered on how to combine the wave equations to find the resultant amplitude.

Contextual Notes

There is some confusion regarding the values of amplitude and wavelength, with participants correcting each other on these points. The problem also involves assumptions about the conditions for maximum amplitude and the effects of phase differences.

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Homework Statement



Two loudspeakers emit sound waves of the same frequency along the x-axis. The amplitude of each wave is a. The sound intensity is minimum when speaker 2 is 10 cm behind speaker 1. The intensity increases as speaker 2a is moved forward and first reaches maximum, with amplitude 2 a, when it is 30 cm in front of speaker 1.

What is the amplitude of the sound if the speakers are placed side by side?

Homework Equations



ΔΦ = 2π[(Δx)/λ] = 2mπ , m = 0,1,2,3...

The Attempt at a Solution



I found the following:

λ = 80cm
Phase difference = ¾π (0.75π) =~ 2.36radians

I tried drawing it but I am not getting the correct answer, and I don't know what to do...
 
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You have the amplitude... so try to write the wave equation for the two waves... Use the equation:

y = A cos (kx) for speaker 1

y = A cos (kx + phi) for speaker 2

you know k = 2pi/wavelength. you know A = 80. Try to use the fact that when speaker two is moved 30m in front of speaker 1, then there is constructive interference... hint a motion of 30m, is a shift in the positive x direction.

Once you know the equations for both waves, add them and find the amplitude for the sum.
 
Excuse me but why would A= 80?
 
wouldnt x =80
 
I'm sorry. A is not 80... amplitude is unknown variable a. I should have written wavelength is 80cm.

I'm getting a phase difference of -0.7854 radians

Using these and adding

y = a cos (kx) to

y = a cos (kx + phi)

where phi = -0.7854 and k = 2pi/0.80 = 7.854

you can get the amplitude of the sum in terms of a... you can either use trig identites to get the amplitude of the sum... or use phasors...
 
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what about x?

y = a cos ( (2pi/.80)(0)

+

y = a cos ( (2pi/.80)(0.30) -0.7854)

is that correct?
 
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Draco said:
what about x?

y = a cos ( (2pi/.80)(0)

+

y = a cos ( (2pi/.80)(0.30) -0.7854)

is that correct?

No. don't substitute in an x.

2pi/.80 = 7.854

You need the function:

y = acos(7.854x) + acos(7.854x - 0.7854)

don't substitute in an x... you need to find the amplitude of this function... you can write this sum of two cosines as a single cosine...

try to use this identity. cosA + cosB = 2*(cos[(A+B)/2])*(cos[(A-B)/2]), where A = 7.854x and B = 7.854x - 0.7854

you should get something of the form:
y = (unknownamplitude)*cos(7.854x + unknownphase)
 
What is The amplitude of the sound if the speakers are placed side by side?

A = 2*a*cos([tex]\Delta\Phi[/tex]/ 2)

The amplitude has its max value A=2a if cos([tex]\Delta\Phi[/tex]/2) = +/- 1.
This is not the case so take a out.

2*cos([tex]\Delta\Phi[/tex]/2)=.765

Something a friend told me that's a little clearer to me and perhaps others.
 

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