Wave propation -- Speed variation in different indices

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of light as it transitions between different media with varying indices of refraction, specifically focusing on the relationships between wavelength, frequency, and speed of light (celerity).

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  • The original poster attempts to understand how the speed of light can change while questioning the constancy of frequency and wavelength. Some participants clarify that frequency remains constant while wavelength does not. Others explore the implications of energy variation on wavelength and frequency.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing clarifications regarding the relationships between frequency, wavelength, and speed of light. There is an acknowledgment of misunderstandings, and some guidance has been offered regarding the constancy of frequency.

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Participants are grappling with the implications of electromagnetic wave behavior and the relationships between energy, frequency, and wavelength. There is a mention of formulas related to energy and frequency, indicating a focus on understanding these concepts in the context of light propagation.

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Speed variation in different indices
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c = λ.f
Hi,
I have this question about the variation of wavelength and frequency as light travels to an environment with a different index.
As we have learned in class, celerity can change as light enters a different environment, however frequency and wavelength are independent and remain constant (right?)
So if this is the case, and c = λ.f , I don't understand how celerity can change but λ and f remain constant? Are there different parameters that I have to take into account that I haven't?
Thank you so much for your help!
 
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duchuy said:
As we have learned in class, celerity can change as light enters a different environment, however frequency and wavelength are independent and remain constant (right?)
Nope, not right. Frequency remains constant, not wavelength.
duchuy said:
So if this is the case, and c = λ.f , I don't understand how celerity can change but λ and f remain constant?
Good! You knew something must be wrong somewhere. :wink:
 
Doc Al said:
Nope, not right. Frequency remains constant, not wavelength.

Good! You knew something must be wrong somewhere. :wink:
Ohh ok thank you so much!
 
Oh but there is still something bugging me )):.
In the electromagnetic wave spectrum, we can see that as wavelength increases, frequency decreases and vice versa and in this case, celerity is unchanged.
So in this case, wavelength and frequency changes due to the variation of energy and is this case what is the formula for this? I'm really struggling to see when certain variables change and when they don't...
Thank your sir!
 
duchuy said:
In the electromagnetic wave spectrum, we can see that as wavelength increases, frequency decreases and vice versa and in this case, celerity is unchanged.
Right. The speed of light in a vacuum is the same for all frequencies.

duchuy said:
So in this case, wavelength and frequency changes due to the variation of energy and is this case what is the formula for this?
A photon's energy relates to its frequency like so: ##E = h f##, where ##h## is Planck's constant.
 
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