Wavelength of a wave in a closed tube

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The discussion revolves around a lab experiment involving a closed tube with piezoelectric transducers used to generate sound waves. Participants are tasked with calculating the wave velocity based on resonance frequencies and are exploring the relationship between the tube length and wavelength.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are examining the relationship between the tube length and the wavelength of the sound waves, questioning whether the length corresponds to a full wavelength or half wavelength at the lowest frequency. There is also discussion about the implications of resonant frequencies on the number of wavelengths within the tube.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants expressing differing views on the interpretation of the experimental setup and the relationship between antinodes and wavelengths. Some guidance has been offered regarding the setup and the implications of the resonant frequencies, but no consensus has been reached.

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Participants are navigating potential confusion regarding the experimental setup, specifically whether the tube was closed at one end or both ends, which affects the interpretation of the wave behavior and the calculations required.

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In a lab that we performed, we had a closed tube with piezo electric transducers on both ends, and they were attached to a frequency generator. We found the frequencies that caused resonance, and the lab wants us to calculate the velocity of the wave using data. The lab says that there are antinode pressure waves at both ends, and therefore, the length of the tube is equal to one wavelength at the lowest frequency.

But at the lowest frequency, wouldn't one antinode to the next correspond to half a wavelength? The two anti nodes in question would be one antinode with max positive displacement to one with the max negative displacement.
 
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You are right, there is half wavelength distance between the antinodes. But it could be that those transducers generated in-phase pressure changes, then there was one wavelength between the ends.

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so should i go with my gut and say half wavelength or trust the manual to be right?

also, assuming its a full wavelength, it asks us to find the velocity at higher resonant frequencies. so would the number of waves inside the tube increase by 1/2 or by a whole when another resonant frequency is reached?
 
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I am confused about the set-up of the experiment. Was that tube exited at one end and closed at the other end where the pressure was measured? The pressure can have antinode at a closed end, but than the length of the tube is L=((2n+1)/4) λ with n=0, 1, 2, 3, ... If the tube was either closed or open at both ends it was a half wave between the ends in case of the fundamental frequency. In case of the other resonant modes, the length of the tube is integer multiple of the half wavelength: L=n(λ/2).

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_resonance#Cylindersehild
 
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