Waves Dispersion? can someone help explain?

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The discussion revolves around understanding complex wave equations and their relationships in a physics context. The user is confused about how to derive the speed of the envelope in a traveling wave from the given equations, particularly in part A, where the relationship between angular frequencies is unclear. In part B, the user seeks clarification on the dispersion relation and the relationship between group velocity and phase velocity, noting a potential misprint in the variables. Part C addresses the dependence of wave number on frequency in a beaded string system, with confusion about how to express k as a function of frequency. Overall, the thread highlights the challenges of interpreting mathematical relationships in wave mechanics.
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Hi I'm studying for a test, and in the suggested reading book review has a few equations that they talk about but I'm not don't really understand how it jumps from one thing to another? the book is very vauge... I've broken the parts i don't understand into A,B,C (I used w = omega)

A)IT shows a graph, explain that the end of a string is given a transverse displacement phi=cosw1t+cosw2t where the two frequencies are almost equal and w1>w2 the resultant motion is a traveling wave of angular frequency (w1+w2)/2, modulated by n envelope which is a traveling wave of (w1-w2)/2 There the speed of this envelop is (w1-w2)/(k1-k2) ...? I don't understand how they got that?

B) A system with dipersion relation w=ak^r...a and r are constants because v(sub g)=xv(sub phi) at all wave frequencies. i duno where then got the other variables v(sub g)? i know that v(sub phi) =c(1+ak^2)^1/2 but i don't understand how they relate?

C) a beaded string above cut off, the dependence of k on frequency is given by w=w(sub c) cosh1/2ka showing a graph, How does k depend on the frequency? i know a beaded string can exhibit high freq cut off and that the part od the system vibrates in anti phase with each other...and k=(pi/a)-ik where k can be found as a function by replacing k=pi/a in w/w(sub c)= sin (1/2 Ka-i1/2ka) but I'm not sure how?
 
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A) comes from the trig for cosw1t+cosw2t = (cos at)(cos bt) with
a=(w1+w2)/2 and b=(w1-w2)/2.
 
B) v_{phi}=w/k=ak^r/r=ak^{r-1}.
v_g=dw/dk=rak^{r-1}=rv_{phi}.
The x must be a misprint.
 
I'm not sure what you're asking. If you have w as a function of k in your first eq.,
can't you just solve that for k? In this and in (B), you may be confusing two different situations.
 
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