Waves high school question -- Book answers are totally rubbish

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The forum discussion centers on two physics statements regarding wave behavior in different water depths. The first statement discusses a ship captain observing waves that become further apart and change direction as they approach deeper water. The consensus is that the book's answer, which states the water gets shallower, is incorrect. The second statement involves an observer seeing a piece of wood moving against the current, with participants debating the effects of wave motion and water currents. Participants agree that the book's explanations lack clarity and fail to accurately convey the principles of wave dynamics.

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  • #61
haruspex said:
Surface waves in a liquid are somewhere between the two. The molecules undergo a circular motion. Consider a cork floating on the water as a wave passes through. Start with the cork in a trough. At this point the cork is in its lowest position and moving in the opposite direction to the wave. Next, it rises on the leading edge of the next wave. Half way up, it is moving vertically. At the crest, it is moving with the wave, but at a lower speed, so the wave passes under it. Half way down, it is moving vertically again.
Viewed from the side, with the waves going left to right, the cork executes roughly a circle, clockwise.

I've got an awareness of the circular motion in water waves ... and I'm glad of it ... though it is beyond my requirements at the moment. All the information that you have provided in tjis thread .has been very useful. Thank you
 
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  • #62
Tom.G said:
Barclay.
1) Consider a rope, maybe fifteen feet long. Tie one end of it to a doorknob or other fixed object. Take ahold of the free end and walk away until the rope is freely suspended in the air but not pulled tight. Now shake your end of the rope up and down. You will see a wave travel from your hand to the tied-off end of the rope. If the rope was traveling along with the wave it would be yanked out of your hand. The up and down DISTURBANCE of the rope is what we call a wave. This disturbance travels along the rope, but the rope itself doesn't rush to the doorknob. This is roughly what the wind does to water to make waves.

2) Now consider doing the above experiment in a train car. The rope is tied at one end of the car and you are standing in the aisle holding the other end of the rope. Repeat Step 1), above. You will get the same result. Even if the train is moving, you will get the same result. The moving train is the water current in the river..

Thanks. Useful images to help me see what is going on
 

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