Weinberg vs. Misner, Thorne and Wheeler

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Choosing between "Gravitation" by Misner, Thorne, and Wheeler (MTW) and "Gravitation and Cosmology" by Weinberg for learning general relativity depends on the reader's background and goals. MTW is noted for its geometrical and abstract approach, while Weinberg offers a more practical perspective. Readers with a solid foundation in physics and mathematics may find MTW beneficial for its comprehensive coverage of topics, although it can be challenging for self-study. Conversely, Weinberg is often regarded as easier to read and follow sequentially. For those interested in Quantum Gravity, MTW may be more suitable, but other introductory texts like D'Inverno or Carroll are also recommended as starting points.
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Which book on general relativity is better to start with?


"Gravitation" by Misner, Thorne and Wheeler,

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"Gravitation and Cosmology" by Weinberg ?
 
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In my opinion, it depends on what you know already and what you want to learn in general relativity [or "get out of learning" general relativity].

MTW is more "geometrical" and more abstract.
Weinberg is more "practical", in some sense.
 
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In my opinion, it depends on what you know already and what you want to learn in general relativity [or "get out of learning" general relativity].

MTW is more "geometrical" and more abstract.
Weinberg is more "practical", in some sense.
I learned special relativity a couple of years ago. I know still (almost) nothing about GR. I'm starting in my fourth year now. Up to now I've been doing both physics and mathematics, so I know already something about curvature, Christoffel symbols, connections etc.

Why do I want to learn GR? To solve the Quantum Gravity problem!
 
MTW, the "big black book", is great to have around for all the special topics it covers. But I myself wasn't able to use it for self training. All those different threads and sidebars made it a slog.
 
I like Weinberg is better than MTW.

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It's probably fair to say that Weinberg is a particle-physicist and Misner, Thorne, and Wheeler are relativists. So, these perspectives appear in their respective texts.

I tried (and failed) to read MTW sequentially. Instead, I jumped around to the various topics... and I still go back at times trying to understand the subtleties. Weinberg is easier to read and work through sequentially.

For Quantum Gravity, it might be better to go with MTW. However, you might find that D'Inverno's "Introducing Einstein's Relativity", Carroll's "Spacetime and Geometry:An Introduction to General Relativity", or Wald's "General Relativity", might be better books to start off with... on the road to MTW.

Here are some useful guides from Carroll's website
http://pancake.uchicago.edu/~carroll/grbook/bibliography.html
and from Baez's website
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/RelWWW/reading.html
 
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