What Are Inertia Forces in an IC Engine?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of inertia forces in internal combustion (IC) engines, particularly focusing on diesel engines compared to gasoline engines. Participants explore the implications of inertia forces during engine operation, combustion timing, and the role of components like the flywheel.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions what is meant by inertia forces in the context of diesel engines, specifically relating it to combustion pressure and load forces.
  • Another participant explains that inertial forces arise from mass in motion and that these forces require energy input to change momentum, suggesting that combustion ideally occurs at top dead center when inertial forces are minimized.
  • A participant posits that diesel engines generally experience higher inertial forces due to the presence of more and heavier components compared to gasoline engines.
  • It is noted that the flywheel significantly influences the moment of inertia in reciprocating engines, with lighter flywheels allowing for quicker revs in racing engines and heavier flywheels aiding in preventing stalling in trucks.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature and impact of inertia forces in diesel versus gasoline engines, indicating that multiple competing perspectives exist without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions regarding the definitions of inertia forces and their implications in engine dynamics remain unaddressed, and the discussion does not resolve the complexities of how these forces interact with other engine components.

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when they say the inertia forces in the engine,what does it refer to ?
this is with respect to the fact that in a diesel engine the point of maximum pressure is at combustion as there are no sufficient inertia forces to cancel out load forces..
 
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Whenever you have mass moving in a dynamic manner (accelerating, rotating) you encounter inertial forces. Changing the momentum of an object requires that you input a force and that change in momentum is what we call the inertial force. In any engine, there are lots of rotating and translating masses and in order to move them and the load you have to input energy. I think in this case, the point of combustion is at top dead center (ideally) which is, at least conceptually, where the inertial forces are the smallest. If you fired the cylinder once, you would develop some momentum in the piston head, which may be consumed by the load and friction, and any shaft compliance etc. but the engine would quickly come to a halt as all that momentum and kinetic energy stored in your piston head has already changed forms.
 
But generally speaking the inertial forces would be higher in a diesel engine due to more parts and heavier parts involved than an gasoline engine ,am I right ?
 
The flywheel plays the major role in determining and adjusting the moment of inertia of the reciprocating engine. The amount of the inertia stored is proportional to the square of the rotational speed.

Racing engines will typically have light flywheels so that they may rev up more freely. Trucks will have heavy flywheels in order that they resist stalling at low rpm's.
 

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