What are the dimensions of a small box given a specific volume increase?

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The problem involves finding the dimensions of a small box whose height, length, and width are consecutive integers. The height is the smallest dimension, and the problem states that increasing the length and width by 1 cm each and doubling the height results in a volume increase of 120 cm³.

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  • Participants discuss setting up equations based on the dimensions of the box and the changes made to them. There are attempts to apply the factor theorem to solve a polynomial equation derived from the volume relationship. Some participants express confusion over algebraic manipulations and seek clarification on their approaches.

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There is ongoing discussion about the correct formulation of the polynomial equation. Some participants have pointed out potential algebraic mistakes in the original poster's calculations. Guidance has been offered regarding the need to check the algebra and focus on integer solutions, given the physical context of the problem.

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Participants note the importance of ensuring that the dimensions remain positive integers, as negative lengths are not physically valid. There is also mention of the factor theorem and the search for roots of the polynomial as a method to solve the problem.

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1. The height,length and width of a small box are consecutive intergers with the height being the smallest of the three dimensions. If the length and width are increased by 1 cm each and the height is doubled, then the volume is increased by 120 cm^3. Find the dimensions of he original small box



2. v=lwh



3. I tried to appoach this two different ways but couldn't get either to work:

1. h = x
w = x+1
l= x+2
therefore (2x)(x+2)(x+3) = 120
2x^3 + 10x^2+12x-120 = 0
i tried to use the factor theroem to solve the equation but could not get it to work.
p{+-1,+-2,+-3...}
q{+-1,+-2}
p/q {+-1,+-1/2, +-2, +-3, +-3/2...}

I knowthat in order to solve the question, I am going to need to need to find the roots of the polynomial and therefore have to solve for x. The factor theroem indicates that if i plug in p/q into the above given equation, it will equal zero, and i can finish the question. The only problem i am having is determining which p/q value satisfies the equation. Another solution would be to factor, but i tried that and it ended up being..

2x^2(x+5) + 12(x-10) and since there are no more common factors, it cannot be taken any further. As a result, i am pretty sure i have to use the factor theorem, but i can't figure out what p/q value satisfies the equation

So then i tried (2x)(x+2)(x+3)= 120 + (x)(x+1)(x+2)
and got..
x^3+7x^2-10x-120 = 0
and tried to use factor theorem again but couldn't get it to work.


Thanks in advance for the help.
 
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That second equation is what you need to solve. You made some sort of algebra mistake when you expanded, the answer is a nice integer
 
sin_city_stunner said:
3. I tried to appoach this two different ways but couldn't get either to work:

1. h = x
w = x+1
l= x+2
therefore (2x)(x+2)(x+3) = 120
2x^3 + 10x^2+12x-120 = 0
i tried to use the factor theroem to solve the equation but could not get it to work.
p{+-1,+-2,+-3...}
q{+-1,+-2}

So then i tried (2x)(x+2)(x+3)= 120 + (x)(x+1)(x+2)
and got..
x^3+7x^2-10x-120 = 0
and tried to use factor theorem again but couldn't get it to work.


Thanks in advance for the help.
Your second method is correct. You have made a mistake in your last line though; it should read x^3+7x^2+10x-120 = 0.

Try and find a factor here (it shouldn't take too many tries!) Note that you do not need to try negative values, since x is a length, and a negative length is not physically valid.
 
ok i see it now, can't believe i had negative 10x..thanks for the help
 
sin_city_stunner said:
So then i tried (2x)(x+2)(x+3)= 120 + (x)(x+1)(x+2)

That's correct.

and got..
x^3+7x^2-10x-120 = 0

Check your algebra. The "-10x" is wrong.
 

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