What are the Material Properties of a Twisted Shaft and Tensile Test Results?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the material properties of a twisted shaft and analyzing tensile test results. A shaft measuring 0.3 meters in length and 45mm in diameter twists 2 degrees under a torque of 7kNm, while a tensile test shows an extension of 0.015mm under a force of 500N on a 5mm diameter specimen. Participants discuss the formulas needed to derive the shear modulus (G), modulus of elasticity (E), and Poisson's ratio (v), emphasizing the relationships between these properties. Calculations and the correct application of formulas are debated, with some users expressing confusion over the units and values involved. Ultimately, the original poster successfully resolves their calculations with community assistance.
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Homework Statement


A shaft of 0.3 metres long and 45mm diameter twists 2 degrees under a torque of 7kNm.
On a tensile test the same material extends 0.015mm on a length of 110mm. If the tensile force producing this extension was 500N and the diameter of the test piece was 5mm determine the values of :
G, E, v, K

Any help/ guidance would be greatly appreciated

Kindest Regards
 
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Malawaki said:
Any help/ guidance would be greatly appreciated

Any attempts/elaborations/efforts from your side first would be appreciated even more. :wink:
 
My first thoughts on the question were to figure out v then with v= lateral strain/longditudinal strain i can only figure out one of these strains i then got stuck as v is in the other formula. Apoint in the right direction would be helpful

Regards
 
If the applied load in the first case causes torsion, then you can use the relation \phi = \frac{M L}{G I}, where I is the polar moment of inertia and I = \frac{d^4 \Pi}{32}.
 
i take it that i re-arrange the formula to get G am I correct

Regards
 
Malawaki said:
i take it that i re-arrange the formula to get G am I correct

Regards

Yes, you can calculate G, and I hope it works out.
 
Am i correct in saying that M is the bending moment and in this case it is = to 500 Newtons
 
Malawaki said:
Am i correct in saying that M is the bending moment and in this case it is = to 500 Newtons

No, it seems to equal 7 kNm.
 
The answer i get is very small 4.22 x10-7

Is my working out right

7 x 0.32/ (0.045to the power 4 x pi / 32) x 2
 
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Malawaki said:
The answer i get is very small 4.22 x10-7

Is my working out right

7 x 0.32/ (0.045to the power 4 x pi / 32) x 2

Looks right, except the length of the shaft is 0.3 m
 
  • #11
what is 4.22 x 10 -7 measured in and what forumula do i use next

Regards
 
  • #12
Malawaki said:
what is 4.22 x 10 -7 measured in and what forumula do i use next

Regards

Well, how is the shear modulus G defined?

Next, you can calculate the module of elasticity E. Further on, there is a neat relation between G, E and v, do you know it?
 
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yes i do know what it is but the formual has two unknown values in it poisson's ratio and E. I also know that i have to calculate poissons ratio next and i know this is equal to lateral strain / longditudinal strain. But i don't know how to get these values from the question

Regards
 
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Malawaki said:
yes i do know what it is but the formual has two unknown values in it poisson's ratio and E. I also know that i have to calculate poissons ratio next and i know this is equal to lateral strain / longditudinal strain. But i don't know how to get these values from the question

Regards

You already calculated G. Now you can calculate E, since you know the force which caused the given extension at the tensile test. Then you can easily calculate v from the mentioned relation.
 
  • #15
I think i am doing something wrong i calculated G which i feel is right with other collegues of mine but am i right in saying E = stress / strain then i get a value of V = .765 which can not be right
 
  • #16
Did you turn the torque from [kNm] to [Nm]?
 
  • #17
I have solved that problem now calculating poissons ratio having difficulty transposing the formula to find v
 
  • #18
Thanks for all the help i solved it in the end

Many thanks
 

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