What are the properties of angular momentum operators?

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The discussion centers on calculating properties related to angular momentum operators in quantum mechanics, specifically for an electron in a hydrogen atom. The user successfully normalizes the wave function and calculates the probabilities for measuring energy E_2 and angular momentum Lz=0, yielding results of 7/16 and 7/8, respectively. However, they express uncertainty in determining the probability of measuring Lx=0 and the expectation values of Lz and Lx. The conversation also touches on the time independence of these values due to the nature of self-adjoint operators and their commutation with the Hamiltonian. Overall, the thread highlights the complexities of applying angular momentum operators in quantum mechanics.
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I'm having a little bit of a problem with an excercise from my QM class. I've got the feeling it's really basic, and it probably comes down to the fact that I'm still quite flabbergasted by angular momentum operators | :rolleyes: . Anyway, the problem:

An electron in the hydrogen atom (neglecting spin) is (using |n,l,m>-notation) in the initial state:
|\Psi>_{t=0}=3|1,0,0>+|2,1,1>+i \sqrt{5}|2,1,0>-|2,1,-1>

a)Normalise \Psi
Calculating <\Psi|\Psi>, shows that the squared weights in front of the eigenfunctions sum up to 16. So the normalising constant A=1/4

b)Find the probability of measuring E_2
Corresponds with n=2, so P(E_2)=7/16

c)Find the probability of measuring Lz=0
m=0, so P(Lz=0)=7/8

The next to questions are the ones that I can't figure out...not with certainty anyway.
d)Find the probability of measuring Lx=0
e)Find the expectation values of Lz and Lx
f)In what way to these values changes with progressing time

I can prob. get the answers in a few days in class, but I'd rather have 'em earlier, since then I can study on...
 
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For part (a),

(i \sqrt{5}) ^2 = -5 [\tex]<br /> <br /> <br /> A = 1/\sqrt{6} [\tex]&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; gamma&lt;br /&gt; ----------------------&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; I tried to use TEX for the first time and got it wrong. Sorry.&lt;br /&gt; correction: (i sqrt(5) ) ^2 = -5&lt;br /&gt; so A = sqrt (6)&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; gamma.
 
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I think my initial answer to part a was right, Gamma. Realise that &lt;\Psi| is a complex conjugate of the given \Psi, so the minus sign cancels out when calculating the inner product.

Anybody any thoughts or clear/constructive texts on the angular momentum operators, or their apllication to this particular problem?
 
wizzart said:
I'm having a little bit of a problem with an excercise from my QM class. I've got the feeling it's really basic, and it probably comes down to the fact that I'm still quite flabbergasted by angular momentum operators | :rolleyes: . Anyway, the problem:

An electron in the hydrogen atom (neglecting spin) is (using |n,l,m>-notation) in the initial state:
|\Psi&gt;_{t=0}=3|1,0,0&gt;+|2,1,1&gt;+i \sqrt{5}|2,1,0&gt;-|2,1,-1&gt;

a)Normalise \Psi
Calculating &lt;\Psi|\Psi&gt;, shows that the squared weights in front of the eigenfunctions sum up to 16. So the normalising constant A=1/4

b)Find the probability of measuring E_2
Corresponds with n=2, so P(E_2)=7/16

c)Find the probability of measuring Lz=0
m=0, so P(Lz=0)=7/8

The next to questions are the ones that I can't figure out...not with certainty anyway.
d)Find the probability of measuring Lx=0
e)Find the expectation values of Lz and Lx
f)In what way to these values changes with progressing time

I can prob. get the answers in a few days in class, but I'd rather have 'em earlier, since then I can study on...

Let's take it slow,really slow:
(a)&lt;\Psi|\Psi&gt;=1\Rightarrow |\Psi&gt;=\frac{1}{4}(3|1,0,0&gt;+|2,1,1&gt;+i \sqrt{5}|2,1,0&gt;-|2,1,-1&gt;)
(b)P(n=2)=|&lt;2,l,m|\Psi&gt;|^{2}=\frac{1}{16}(1+5+1)=\frac{7}{16}
(c)P(m=0)=|&lt;n,l,0|\Psi&gt;|^{2}=\frac{1}{16}(9+5)=\frac{7}{8}
(d,e)\hat{L}_{x}=\frac{1}{2}(\hat{L}_{+}+\hat{L}_{-})
\hat{L}_{+}|n,l,m&gt;=\hbar\sqrt{l(l+1)-m(m+1)}|n,l,m+1&gt;
\hat{L}_{-}|n,l,m&gt;=\hbar\sqrt{l(l+1)-m(m-1)}|n,l,m-1&gt;
\hat{L}_{+}|\Psi&gt;=\frac{1}{4}(i\hbar\sqrt{10}|2,1,1&gt;-\hbar\sqrt{2}|2,1,0&gt;)
\hat{L}_{-}|\Psi&gt;=\frac{1}{4}(\hbar\sqrt{2}|2,1,0&gt;+i\hbar\sqrt{10}|2,1,-1&gt;)
\hat{L}_{x}|\Psi&gt;=\frac{1}{8}i\hbar\sqrt{10}(|2,1,-1&gt;+|2,1,1&gt;)
&lt;\hat{L}_{x}&gt;=&lt;\Psi|\hat_{L}_{x}|\Psi&gt;=\frac{i\hbar\sqrt{10}}{32} (1-1)=0
P(eigenvalue(\hat{L}_{x})=0)=...?? (?? :confused: I'm not sure)

(f)The eigenvalues,the averages and the probabilities do not change in time,because the selfadjoint operators and the orthogonal projectors from their spectral decomposition are time independent (in the Schroedinger picture) and they commute with the time independent Hamiltonian.
 
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