What are the types of subspaces in R^4?

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The discussion centers on identifying the five types of subspaces in R^4. Participants clarify that subspaces include lines through the origin, the zero vector, planes through the origin, and R^4 itself. There is confusion regarding the definition of "planes," with questions about their dimensionality and how they relate to lower-dimensional spaces. The need for precise terminology is emphasized, particularly in distinguishing between planes in different dimensions. The conversation highlights the complexity of subspace classification in higher dimensions.
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There are more answers to this problem, but I'm not sure how to approach it.

The subspaces of R^3 are planes, lines, R^3 itself, or Z containing only (0,0,0,0).

b. Describe the five type of subspaces of R^4

i. lines thru (0,0,0,0)
ii. zero (0,0,0,0)

iii. planes thru (0,0,0,0)
What do you mean by planes? Are you assuming 2 dimensional sets as is usual with planes?

iv. itself, R^4

What's the 5th?
 
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There are more answers to this problem, but I'm not sure how to approach it.

The subspaces of R^3 are planes[/quote]
Planes containing the origin
, lines
Lines through the origin
, R^3 itself, or Z containing only (0,0,0,0).
caution: Z is typically used to mean the set of integers. Here, I guess you mean "the set containing only (0, 0, 0)". (NOT (0,0,0,0)!)

b. Describe the five type of subspaces of R^4

i. lines thru (0,0,0,0)
ii. zero (0,0,0,0)
More correctly, the set containing only the zero vector.

iii. planes thru (0,0,0,0)
What do you mean by planes? Are you assuming 2 dimensional sets as is usual with planes?

iv. itself, R^4

What's the 5th?

Look at number iii again. You have incorporated two different "kinds" of subspace there.
(R4 is 4 dimensional. Think of your five kinds of subspace as: 0, 1, 2, 3, 4.)
 
HallsofIvy said:
Look at number iii again. You have incorporated two different "kinds" of subspace there.
(R4 is 4 dimensional. Think of your five kinds of subspace as: 0, 1, 2, 3, 4.)

iii. planes thru (0,0,0,0)

iv. itself, Click to see the LaTeX code for this image

What's the 5th?
So I have planes in R^4. But I also have planes in R^2 and R^3 passing thru (0,0,0,0) that are contained in R^4. Lastly, R^4, itself.
 
It doesn't make sense to talk of a plane in R^3 being contained in R^4 as if that were a well defined object. Even if we identify a copy of R^3 sitting inside R^4, any plane in R^3 is still a plane in R^4 so you just counted it when you specified the set of planes (passing through the origin). Also, R^2 contains only one 2-dimensional subspace - itself.

Doing it in coords, isn't the set of things (x,y,z,0) a subspace of R^4? What is its dimension?
 
rocomath said:
So I have planes in R^4. But I also have planes in R^2 and R^3 passing thru (0,0,0,0) that are contained in R^4. Lastly, R^4, itself.

Once again what do you mean by "planes"? How is a "plane in R^2" different from a "plane in R^3" or a "plane in R^4"?
 
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