What Defines the Power of a Screw?

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The discussion revolves around the factors that define the power of a screw, particularly in terms of its clamping ability and mechanical advantage. Participants explore various aspects of screw design and application, including thread spacing, screw length, and the impact of material properties on screw performance.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the spacing between threads contributes to clamping power, while others consider the length of the screw and the length of the screwdriver as important factors.
  • One participant clarifies that by "power," the discussion refers to holding power, emphasizing the mechanical advantage gained by using screws.
  • Concerns are raised about screw failure modes, including snapping due to excess torque and material failure when screws are overtightened.
  • Participants discuss the relationship between screw diameter and torque resistance, noting that larger screws can generally withstand higher torque than smaller ones.
  • Several participants share practical tips for driving screws, such as using soap to lubricate threads and methods for dealing with stripped holes using toothpicks or matchsticks.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on what defines the power of a screw, with no consensus reached on a singular definition. The discussion includes multiple competing ideas regarding the factors influencing screw performance.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention specific conditions under which screws may fail, such as the type of material being fastened and the torque applied, but these factors remain unresolved in terms of their overall impact on defining screw power.

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I'm in a class that is talking about screws (common everyday type of screws). The question came up with regarding exactly defines the power of a screw?

We're sure that the smaller the space is in between the thread contributes to more clamping power. For the other factor, we're thinking that the length of the screw is also important. Some in the class think that it's the length of the "stick" that is required to go around the screw head (to tighten it) - in other words, the length of the screwdriver. Others speculate that it's the diameter of the screw head.

What is the right answer? Thank you.
 
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Perhaps think about how screws can fail.

For example if you over tighten a screw several things can happen..

1) The screw snaps or fails in shear (twisting) - typically the head breaks off or the shaft fails where it changes from plain to threaded. This is typically due to excess torque. For example if you try driving a screw into a hardwood block a brass screw might fail half way in while a steel screw will be fine. The amount of torque required to drive in the screw depends on (for example) the friction between the threaded part and the material it's going into. A standard trick is to drill a pilot hole and apply some silicon sealer to reduce friction and reduce the torque needed to drive it in. In general a larger diameter screw can withstand higher torque than a smaller one.

or

2) The material that the screw is driven into fails. Instead of the screw going into the material a "tube" of material is pulled out or "stripped". If you have ever assembled a plastic toy you may have discovered that if you overtighten a screw it just starts turning without getting any tighter. For this reason screws with fine/small threads are limited to hard/strong materials (eg metals) whereas coarser threads are used on screws intended for softer materials (eg wood).

We're sure that the smaller the space is in between the thread contributes to more clamping power

I'm not sure what you mean but this but..

A nut which is loose fit on it's bolt would be weaker than a nut which is a good fit on it's bolt.
 
CWatters said:
1) The screw snaps or fails in shear (twisting) - typically the head breaks off or the shaft fails where it changes from plain to threaded. This is typically due to excess torque. For example if you try driving a screw into a hardwood block a brass screw might fail half way in while a steel screw will be fine. The amount of torque required to drive in the screw depends on (for example) the friction between the threaded part and the material it's going into. A standard trick is to drill a pilot hole and apply some silicon sealer to reduce friction and reduce the torque needed to drive it in. In general a larger diameter screw can withstand higher torque than a smaller one.
On something of a tangent, my dad showed me a trick that is helpful. Load up the threads of a screw by dragging it across a scrap of bar soap before driving the screw. It'll go in more easily.
 
Mark44 said:
On something of a tangent, my dad showed me a trick that is helpful. Load up the threads of a screw by dragging it across a scrap of bar soap before driving the screw. It'll go in more easily.

Yeah my Dad taught me that too and the one of using a toothpick if a hole is stripped and you still need to put the screw in place. Poke the toothpick in the hole and break it off and then drive in the screw.
 
jedishrfu said:
Yeah my Dad taught me that too and the one of using a toothpick if a hole is stripped and you still need to put the screw in place. Poke the toothpick in the hole and break it off and then drive in the screw.
Or a piece or two of a stick match broken off. The soap works better when it's a little wet, but it also words when it's dry. The advantage of soap over the silicone sealer that CWatters mentioned is that you might not have any of that sealer on hand, but there is usually some soap around.
 
No soap on building sites these days. Brickies have stopped using it as a mortar plasticiser :-)
 

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