What Does the Vector Diagram of a Turning Vehicle Look Like?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the vector diagram of a vehicle turning, with participants exploring the implications of a coin flip while traveling in a straight line. The conversation touches on the geometric representation of motion, specifically whether the resulting path forms a triangle or a parabola, and how this relates to vector diagrams in multiple dimensions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that flipping a coin while traveling straight would create a right-handed triangle due to the vertical motion of the coin.
  • Another participant counters that the path would actually form a parabola, challenging the initial claim about the triangle.
  • A participant expresses agreement with the idea of a parabola but also notes that a triangle could be formed between the initial position and terminal height of the coin.
  • Further clarification is provided that while a low-resolution parabola might resemble a triangle, any three non-collinear points will form a triangle.
  • Another participant agrees that the trajectory is a parabola and suggests that the turning vehicle's path could be represented as a parametric curve.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the motion results in a triangle or a parabola, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain unresolved regarding the geometric representation of the motion.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions about the definitions of the shapes involved and the conditions under which the triangle and parabola are being compared. The discussion also lacks clarity on how the turning motion specifically influences the vector diagram.

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Recently I began to think somehin which has led to a lot more questions.

If traveling on a straight line and I were to flip a coin a stock standard right handed triangle would be made, due to the coin going up and down.

What would the vector diagram look like if the vehicle was to be turning? Is it a matter of drawing it on the x,y and z planes ?
 
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PowerBuilder said:
If traveling on a straight line and I were to flip a coin a stock standard right handed triangle would be made, due to the coin going up and down.

It would not form a triangle, it would form a parabola.
 
Yes! I was right! That's what I suspected.
 
PowerBuilder said:
Yes! I was right! That's what I suspected.

:confused:

I haven't even addressed your question yet (sentence 3). I was simply correcting your premise (sentence 2).
 
Sorry I jumped te gun a bit too quick. It would create a parabola as it goes up and finally falls down. It would though create a triangle between it's initial position, terminal height. Or am I wrong ?
 
PowerBuilder said:
Sorry I jumped te gun a bit too quick. It would create a parabola as it goes up and finally falls down. It would though create a triangle between it's initial position, terminal height. Or am I wrong ?

Well you could say that a parabola drawn at very low resolution will look like a triangle. Certainly if you take just the initial point, the highest point and the final point, they will form a triangle, but then so will any three points if they're not all on the same line!
 
Michael C said:
Well you could say that a parabola drawn at very low resolution will look like a triangle. Certainly if you take just the initial point, the highest point and the final point, they will form a triangle, but then so will any three points if they're not all on the same line!

Definitely. It will always form a triangle. However, if you are considering the trajectory, I the first is definitely a parabola and the second will probably look like some sort of parametric curve. At least I believe so.
 

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