What Equation Calculates Maximum Shear Strain Direction?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the correct equation to calculate the direction of maximum shear strain in a beam using strain gauges. Participants explore the relevant equations and concepts related to strain and shear in the context of an upcoming experiment.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the equation tan2θ = - (εxx - εyy) / 2εxy as a potential solution for calculating maximum shear strain direction, noting ambiguity in the textbook.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of understanding the experiment and mentions that the shear in the beam will depend on loading and support conditions.
  • A participant questions the principal directions of strain when a beam is bent, suggesting that strain gauges will be attached to the top of the beam.
  • Responses indicate that the principal directions of strain in beam bending are along and across the beam, prompting a discussion about the implications for maximum shear strain direction.
  • One participant suggests that the directions of maximum shear strain may be at 45 degrees or 90 degrees on a Mohr's circle, seeking clarification on the purpose of the initially mentioned equation.
  • A later reply clarifies that the equation provided gives the angle of maximum shear stress when components of the stress tensor are expressed in a Cartesian coordinate system.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the application of the equation for maximum shear strain direction and the principal directions of strain in bending beams. Multiple viewpoints exist without a clear consensus on the correct approach or understanding of the concepts involved.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding assumptions about loading conditions, the definitions of strain and shear, and the specific context of the experiment that remain unresolved.

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Homework Statement


Hi Everyone,

I am going to be doing an experiment soon using strain gauges on a beam and I will have to, among other things, calculate the direction of the maximum shear strain with respect to the axis of the beam. I am trying to find the correct equation to use.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I have found this equation in a textbook of mine: tan2θ = - (εxx - εyy) / 2εxy. I looks to me like the right one but the text is a bit ambiguous. I know this isn't a very specific question but is this the equation I would need to calculate what I said above? I just want to know roughly what I'm doing before I go to the lab.

Thanks
 
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GBA13 said:

Homework Statement


Hi Everyone,

I am going to be doing an experiment soon using strain gauges on a beam and I will have to, among other things, calculate the direction of the maximum shear strain with respect to the axis of the beam. I am trying to find the correct equation to use.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I have found this equation in a textbook of mine: tan2θ = - (εxx - εyy) / 2εxy. I looks to me like the right one but the text is a bit ambiguous. I know this isn't a very specific question but is this the equation I would need to calculate what I said above? I just want to know roughly what I'm doing before I go to the lab.

Thanks
The Greek letter ε typically denotes axial strain. The Greek letter γ typically denotes shear strain.

The shear in your beam is going to depend on the loading and the support conditions.

It's a good idea to understand an experiment before you perform it. Unfortunately, PF is not set up to teach you what you should know.
 
GBA13 said:

Homework Statement


Hi Everyone,

I am going to be doing an experiment soon using strain gauges on a beam and I will have to, among other things, calculate the direction of the maximum shear strain with respect to the axis of the beam. I am trying to find the correct equation to use.
I assume that you are attaching strain gauges to either the top or the bottom of the beam. Do you know what the principal directions of strain are when a beam is bent?

Chet
 
Chestermiller said:
I assume that you are attaching strain gauges to either the top or the bottom of the beam. Do you know what the principal directions of strain are when a beam is bent?

Chet
They will be attached to the top of the beam. I'm not sure about the principle directions but there will be a small force pushing the beam directly downwards if that helps.
 
GBA13 said:
They will be attached to the top of the beam. I'm not sure about the principle directions but there will be a small force pushing the beam directly downwards if that helps.
Go back and check your textbook. The principal directions of strain in beam bending are along the beam and across the beam. What does that tell you about the direction of maximum shear strain?

Chet
 
Chestermiller said:
Go back and check your textbook. The principal directions of strain in beam bending are along the beam and across the beam. What does that tell you about the direction of maximum shear strain?

Chet

As far as I can tell that means that the directions are just at 45o (or 90o on a mohr's cirlce). If that is the case, what is the equation I posted used for?

Thanks!
 
GBA13 said:
As far as I can tell that means that the directions are just at 45o (or 90o on a mohr's cirlce). If that is the case, what is the equation I posted used for?

Thanks!
If the components of the stress tensor are expressed with respect to a Cartesian x-y coordinate system, this equation give the angle of the maximum shear stress.

Chet
 

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