I What happens when tidal power runs out?

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Tidal power plants harness energy from water movement influenced by the moon, but their impact on the moon's orbit is minimal. While adding tidal energy systems introduces slight resistance to water flow, the effect on Earth's rotation and the moon's recession is negligible compared to natural oceanic forces. Full tidal locking of Earth and the moon is impossible due to the sun's tidal influence, ensuring ongoing tidal interactions. Although there will be a gradual reduction in tidal power efficiency as the moon recedes, this process spans millions of years and poses no immediate concern. Overall, human activities have an insignificant impact on tidal energy sustainability in the long term.
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So tidal power plants are a thing. They harvest the energy from water moving around. That energy comes from somewhere, specifically the moon, right? So does harvesting tidal power (very very very) slowly degrade the moon's orbit? Does liquid's existence on Earth deteriorate the orbit to begin with? I mean, perpetual energy is not a thing, right, so the system has to deteriorate somehow... How does a tidal energy system deteriorate? How long would that take?
 
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By adding a tidal power-harvesting plant you're effectively adding extra resistance to the motion of water, which leads to a tiny bit more efficient tidal braking - the slowing down of Earth's rotation and a recession of Moon's orbit. The flow of water is more obstructed, so it does a bit better job at dragging on the surface.

This is, however, a minuscule amount when compared to the braking the regular motion of water exerts due to the way the ocean beds and continents are structured, which in turn is not enough to tidally lock (i.e. deplete the potential for extracting tidal energy) the Earth to the Moon over the lifetime of the Sun.

Additionally, even in principle, full tidal lock of Earth and Moon is not possible, as at some point tidal forces from the Sun would take over, disrupting the system. That is, you can't have a situation where our planet is locked both to the Sun and the Moon, so some tidal interaction is ensured for as long as the Moon remains in the system as a freely orbiting body.
There will be a gradual reduction in efficiency of tidal power as the Moon recedes and Earth slows its rotation, though. But again, gradual enough so as not to be a practical worry for millions of years, if ever at all.

If you're still concerned about the effect of human activities on the process, I suggest the following exercise: estimate the current energy consumption of the human race, assume it's all produced by tidal power plants at typical efficiency, and compare it to the energy required to completely stop the rotation of the Earth (which is an o.k. approximation of a tidal lock).
 
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We switch back to coal.
 
Simoyd said:
How long would that take?
zillions of years, nothing mankind has to worry about
 
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davenn said:
zillions of years, nothing mankind has to worry about
About 390 million years, actually.
 
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About 390 million years, actually.

not as long as I expected, but mankind isn't likely to be around to worry about it :wink:Dave
 
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