What hypothetical properties would negative energy have?

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The discussion revolves around the hypothetical properties of negative energy, particularly in the context of science fiction. Participants explore various applications of negative energy, including its potential use in spacecraft propulsion, weapons, and other narrative devices, while also addressing its theoretical implications and challenges.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that negative energy could theoretically be used in spacecraft propulsion or even for faster-than-light (FTL) travel, citing concepts like the Alcubierre drive which requires extreme negative energy densities.
  • Others argue that the existence of negative energy might lead to catastrophic consequences, potentially destroying ordered structures in the universe due to spontaneous creation of positive and negative energy pairs.
  • One participant notes that negative energy is not commonly detailed in science fiction, allowing writers to use it flexibly for narrative purposes, such as wormhole stabilization or energy deflection.
  • Another participant mentions that negative energies are compatible with quantum field theory (QFT) and references the Casimir effect as a real-world example of negative energy density.
  • Some participants express that while they have researched negative energy for plausibility in their writing, they often find the concepts to become complex and challenging to integrate into coherent narratives.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that negative energy is a speculative concept with various potential applications in science fiction, but there is no consensus on its implications or feasibility in reality. Disagreements exist regarding the consequences of negative energy and its theoretical underpinnings.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the speculative nature of negative energy, dependence on theoretical frameworks like QFT, and the unresolved implications of its existence on the universe's structure.

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Writers and creators interested in science fiction, particularly those exploring themes of advanced technology, theoretical physics, and speculative concepts in their narratives.

Lren Zvsm
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I would like to know about the hypothetical properties of hypothetical negative energy--most especially the properties that would be useful for a science fiction writer to know. If such energy existed, could it be used in a drive for space craft? An FTL drive? For a weapon? A safety device? Would it suggest the existence of other universes? And so forth.
 
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Most importantly it would probably destroy everything in the universe where it can exist.
If a process doesn't violate any conservation laws it happens with some probability. If everything has positive energy then a vacuum is the lowest energy state - nothing can be produced there. If there are things with negative energy then these plus things with positive energy can appear spontaneously. This should happen everywhere and all the time, making a universe with ordered structures implausible.
There might be some way to create conditions to avoid this, or you can simply ignore this issue. The results can depend on that, however.

If things with negative energy are only made under special conditions in the lab then you can use that process as unlimited energy (and propulsion) source: Just throw away the negative energy parts, keep the positive energy parts.

The Alcubierre drive is a hypothetical concept that might allow something that looks like FTL (without anything actually moving faster than light) if you can create extreme negative energy densities.
Lren Zvsm said:
Would it suggest the existence of other universes?
No.
 
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Negative energy is not that pervasive in sci-fi, and especially not in detail, but given that it's hypothetical, you can use it for whatever narrative purpose you like.

So, it can buttress wormhole entrances. It could be used for defense, to deflect energy beams, and even projectiles if the density is high enough. It might be handwavium for some kind of time travel or time status device. You can make it a drive by 'pushing' against the fabric of our regular universe.

Basically, as @mfb notes, it's not 'scientific' and as such you can utilize it pretty much anyway you like in a story :cool:
 
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It is not so hypothetical... Negative energies are OK with QFT and for example the Casimir effect can create negative energy density.

Gravity is another interesting one as described in the first section:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_energy
 
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Good pickup, @essenmein, my comment was more aligned with sci-fi aspect of "hypothetical" negative energy as per the OP, but did not make that clear :doh:
 
Tghu Verd said:
Good pickup, @essenmein, my comment was more aligned with sci-fi aspect of "hypothetical" negative energy as per the OP, but did not make that clear :doh:

I looked into negative energy quite a bit as I wanted my FTL to sound semi plausible, although I didn't really end up using anything specifically as it gets wonky pretty quick... Just lots of EM and a thing that makes negative energy, voila jump drive, shut up don't ask too many questions it works. lol.
 
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essenmein said:
I looked into negative energy quite a bit as I wanted my FTL to sound semi plausible, although I didn't really end up using anything specifically as it gets wonky pretty quick

It is a fine line, isn't it. Most readers want a story, not a physics textbook, and while The Martian highlights that good science can sell, the gazillion more books purchased by lovers of Iain M. Banks, Peter F. Hamilton, Richard Morgan, etc., which have speculative, not in our universe, 'science' in the fiction shows that semi plausible gets you by more often than not.

I've just re-read Alastair Reynolds's House of Suns, and it does not have FTL, making time dilation a major plot lever, but it does have a ton of other impossible tech (stardams being one - that's a Dyson sphere which contains a supernova!) that you don't even notice because the focus is on the characters and the story being told.
 
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