What is Chelsea's kinetic energy at t=2.50s?

AI Thread Summary
Chelsea, a calico cat, weighs 36.5 N and her position is described by a specific function of time. To find her kinetic energy at t=2.50s, the first derivative of the position function must be calculated to determine her velocity. The correct formula for kinetic energy is 0.5 times mass times the square of velocity. The discussion highlights confusion around differentiation methods, particularly regarding the use of the quotient rule versus the chain rule. Ultimately, the correct kinetic energy at t=2.50s is determined to be 57.1 joules.
positive infinity
Messages
9
Reaction score
0
Hello again and here is another problem I can't seem to figure out.

Chelsea, a calico cat, runs in a straight line chasing a car down the street. Chelsea weighs 36.5 N. and her position along the road is given by
x(t)=(3.50m/s)t+(0.425m/s^2)t^2+1.00ms/(t+1.00s)
Calculate Chelsea's kinitec energy at t=2.50s

The answe is 57.1 joules

Okay not I am not to sure if I'm supposed to find the first or the second derivative. well I compiled it like so
x(t)=at+bt^2+c/(t+d)
x'(t)=a+2bt+(t+d)*F((x)c)-c*F((x)t+d)/(t+d)^2 which comes out to
x'(t)=3.50m/s+2(0.425m/s^2)(2.50s)+(2.5m/s^2)/(2.5m/s+1.00s)^2 = 5.83m
(m*N)=Joules, 5.83m*36.5 N = 212.8 J <--way off so i tried for a second deriv.
x''(t)=2(0.425m/s^2+6.25m/s^2/(2.5s*1.00s)^3= 0.996m 0.996m*36.5N=36.3 J <-- still wrong , Where am I messing up can anyone please help me??!
 
Physics news on Phys.org
What is the formula for kinetic energy in terms of mass and velocity ?

Is velocity the first differential or second differential of the position wrt time ?

The differentiation is wrong. What is \frac{d}{dx}(\frac{1}{x + c}) ?
 
well I used the quotient rule, at the end because it seemed most logical. all we have to do is calculate the amount of joules whic m*N= J and we find the deriv. of the position time function given But, I'm not so sure.
 
positive infinity said:
well I used the quotient rule, at the end because it seemed most logical. all we have to do is calculate the amount of joules whic m*N= J and we find the deriv. of the position time function given But, I'm not so sure.

From the way you wrote the expression out, isn't it of the form :

3.5t + 0.425t^2 + \frac{1}{t + 1}

rather than

\frac{3.5t + 0.425t^2 +1}{t + 1} ?

The former expression does not need quotient rule to differentiate it. Well you can, but there's a much easier way to do it. But first clarify the question. Besides where do all the F(x) etc come from ?
 
Curious3141 said:
The former expression does not need quotient rule to differentiate it. Well you can, but there's a much easier way to do it. But first clarify the question. Besides where do all the F(x) etc come from ?

3.5t + 0.425t^2 + \frac{1}{t + 1} That is the correct equation.

Im in the same class, by the F(x)'s that's the position time function we are givin. Now I am confused on how to find Kinetic energy. Do I just determine the first derivative? Will that give me K.E(t)?

Thanks,
Andy
 
tanky322 said:
3.5t + 0.425t^2 + \frac{1}{t + 1} That is the correct equation.

Im in the same class, by the F(x)'s that's the position time function we are givin. Now I am confused on how to find Kinetic energy. Do I just determine the first derivative? Will that give me K.E(t)?

Thanks,
Andy

The first derivative of the displacement will give the velocity.

The kinetic energy is given by 0.5*mass*(velocity)^2

The mass can be found from the weight of the cat (given).

Can you differentiate \frac{1}{t + 1} wrt t

by chain rule ? Or you can use quotient rule, but chain rule is easier here.
 
I multiplied the values first without the error limit. Got 19.38. rounded it off to 2 significant figures since the given data has 2 significant figures. So = 19. For error I used the above formula. It comes out about 1.48. Now my question is. Should I write the answer as 19±1.5 (rounding 1.48 to 2 significant figures) OR should I write it as 19±1. So in short, should the error have same number of significant figures as the mean value or should it have the same number of decimal places as...
Thread 'A cylinder connected to a hanging mass'
Let's declare that for the cylinder, mass = M = 10 kg Radius = R = 4 m For the wall and the floor, Friction coeff = ##\mu## = 0.5 For the hanging mass, mass = m = 11 kg First, we divide the force according to their respective plane (x and y thing, correct me if I'm wrong) and according to which, cylinder or the hanging mass, they're working on. Force on the hanging mass $$mg - T = ma$$ Force(Cylinder) on y $$N_f + f_w - Mg = 0$$ Force(Cylinder) on x $$T + f_f - N_w = Ma$$ There's also...
Back
Top