What is the acceleration of the rocket?

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To determine the rocket's acceleration, the problem involves a rocket emitting gas at a speed of 1500 m/s with a flow rate of 100 kg/s and a net mass of 5000 kg. Using conservation of momentum, the upward velocity of the rocket was calculated to be 30 m/s. The next step involves applying the force equation F=d(mv)/dt, but clarification is needed on initial and final velocities due to the changing mass and velocity of the rocket. The discussion emphasizes the importance of considering the gas speed relative to an inertial frame for accurate momentum calculations. Understanding these dynamics is crucial for deriving the correct expression for acceleration.
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1. Problem
A launched rocket emitting gas with a speed of 1500 m/sec relative to rocket and with flowrate of 100 kg/sec.
If net mass of rocket is 5000 kg, find it's acceleration.

2. Equations
F=ma
F=d(mv)/dt
Conservation of momentum
m1u1 + m2u2 = m1v1 + m2v2

3.Attempt
Flowrate = 100 kg/s
velocity = 1500 m/s
momentum downwards = mv = 100 x 1500 = 1.5 x 105 kg m/s

According to conservation of momentum, i found the velocity to upward direction.

m1u1 + m2u2 = m1v1 + m2v2
0 = -100 x 1500 + 5000v2
5v2 = 150
v2 = 30 m/s

what should do next to find the acceleration
If I use F=d(mv)/dt
what is the initial velocity and final velocity. I have no idea about those two & and how to take it.
 
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usually those kind of problems are done first writing momentum at the time t, then at the time t+dt, taking difference P(t+dt)-P(t) and dividing it by dt, then you will get Newton's second law: F= dP/dt, with no external forces F = 0. If you'll get correct expression for P(t) and P(t+dt), then acceleration will pop up in dP/dt expression. just don't forget that mass is changing, and so is velocity, and that gas emitting speed is given relative to the rocket - in writing momentum you need its speed relative to inertial frame (one that is not accelerating).
 
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