What Is the Angular Acceleration of a Disc Rotating About Multiple Axes?

[e(ho0n3]

I think I'm starting to abuse this forum. Anyways, it seems that I haven't grasped the concept of angular acceleration yet since I'm having trouble solving this problem:

Suppose I have a disc laying on the x-y plane with center at the origin. Suppose the disc is rotating about the z-axis with angular velocity \vec{w} and about the y-axis with angular velocity \vec{u}. What is the angular acceleration of the disc?

The resultant angular velocity of this disc is \vec{w} + \vec{u} right? I guess since this resultant angular velocity is changing direction as the disc spins, it gives rise to an angular acceleration. I can't really picture the angular acceleration though (i.e. where is it at?).

 

[e(ho0n3]

The resultant angular velocity of this disc is \vec{w} + \vec{u} right? I guess since this resultant angular velocity is changing direction as the disc spins, it gives rise to an angular acceleration. I can't really picture the angular acceleration though (i.e. where is it at?).

What the heck am I saying!? The resultant angular velocity vector doesn't change direction. Then where is this angular acceleration I'm asked for comming from? This is weird.

 

[Gza]

Remember from \vec{\tau} = I \vec{\alpha} that a torque is required to cause an angular acceleration. This body can't somehow cause a force(or torque for that matter) on itself by Newton's third law, since all forces(or torques) are interactions involving more than one body. Therefore the author of your problem must be high.

 

[arildno]

Where is it stated that the resulting angular velocity u\vec{j}+w\vec{k} is a constant in time??
The angular acceleration is simply \vec{\alpha}=\dot{u}\vec{j}+\dot{w}\vec{k}

 

[e(ho0n3]

Where is it stated that the resulting angular velocity u\vec{j}+w\vec{k} is a constant in time??
The angular acceleration is simply \vec{\alpha}=\dot{u}\vec{j}+\dot{w}\vec{k}

I'm stating it now then: the angular velocity vectors are constant (i.e. do not change with time). If I applied your formula, then I would get an angular acceleration of zero. I'm starting to loose confidence with this problem.

 

[arildno]

Well, then the angular acceleration is zero.
Let \vec{\omega} be the resultant angular velocity vector.
We may write:
\vec{\omega}=\omega\vec{i}_{\omega}

where:
\vec{i}_{\omega}=\frac{u}{\sqrt{u^{2}+w^{2}}}\vec{j}+\frac{w}{\sqrt{u^{2}+w^{2}}}\vec{k}
\omega=\sqrt{u^{2}+w^{2}}

In your case, \vec{i}_{\omega} is a constant vector defining the rotation plane (for which it is the unit normal)
\omega is the scalar angular velocity.

 

[TALewis]

Maybe the correct answer is zero?

 

[arildno]

Sorry about the Latex mess; it should be fixed by now.

 

[e(ho0n3]

Funny, the book has a different answer. I didn't give a verbatim copy of the problem since it's lengthy and has a picture. Maybe my summary of the problem I gave here is not accurate. No matter, since my doubts have been cleared.

 

[arildno]

Could you post the answer from the book?

 

[e(ho0n3]

Could you post the answer from the book?

The answer is numerical, so I don't think that will help unless I quote the problem exactly. Don't worry about it. Thanks again.