What is the attractive electric force between the ions?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the attractive electric force between sodium and chloride ions in NaCl using Coulomb's law. The correct distance between the ions is confirmed to be 2.82 x 10^-10 m. Initial calculations yield varying results, with some participants mistakenly using incorrect distances or failing to square the charge. The final consensus is that the attractive force is approximately -2.9 x 10^-9 N, with the negative sign indicating the nature of the attraction between the oppositely charged ions. Participants emphasize the importance of correctly applying Coulomb's law and recognizing the significance of charge signs in the calculations.
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[SOLVED] Electric Force Question

The distance between neighboring singly charged sodium and chloride ions in crystals of table salt (NaCl) is 2.82 x 10^-10 m. What is the attractive electric force between the ions?





By coulomb’s law,
Electric force F = [1/4πεo] q1 q2/ r^2
= 9.0 x 10^9 (1.6 x 10^-19) / (2.82 x 10^-12)^2
= 2.9 x 10^9 N (force of attraction)


Correct?
 
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One is positively charged and the other is negatively charged. Is the distance 2.82x10-10m or 2.82 x10-12m?
 
Kurdt said:
One is positively charged and the other is negatively charged. Is the distance 2.82x10-10m or 2.82 x10-12m?

The distance is supposed to be 2.82 x 10^-10. So... the answer should be 1.26 x 10^10 N? Did I work this question correctly or is it all wrong?
 
Your first answer was in the right area, but I got it to be -2.9x10-9N.
 
Kurdt said:
Your first answer was in the right area, but I got it to be -2.9x10-9N.

Could you show me how you got that answer? Because I'm still coming up with the same answer.
 
I think you've just forgot to square the charge. Remember its q_1q_2=(1.6x10^{-19})^2.
 
I'm just not getting this for some reason and it seems so simple...now I'm getting 2.89 x 10^-1. Where am I making a mistake? Could you please help me work through this problem?
 
Kurdt said:
Your first answer was in the right area, but I got it to be -2.9x10-9N.

Why do you have that as a negative?
 
An attractive force is negative. One of the ions will be negatively charged and the other will be positively charged giving a negative answer.

(9x109*1.6x10-19*1.6x10-19)/(2.82x10-10)2
 
  • #10
Ok...I reworked it and got 2.9 x 10^-11 (so do I just add a negative since an attractive force is negative?) Is this right?

Edit: 2.9 x 10^-9...or -2.9 x 10^-9
 
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  • #11
Yes. That would be correct. the negative comes from the fact that one of the charges has to be negative. Rather than include it in the calculations i just remember that the answer will be negative once I've plugged all the numbers in.
 
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