Calculating Change in Potential Energy of Moon 4.0 cm Closer to Earth

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The discussion revolves around calculating the change in gravitational potential energy as the Moon moves 4 cm closer to Earth. Participants confirm that using the formula GMm/r will yield values on the order of 10^28 for both the initial and final potential energies. It is emphasized that maintaining precision in calculations is crucial since the change in distance is minimal, leading to many digits canceling out. Clarification is provided that the focus should be on potential energy rather than gravitational potential, as the Moon's mass is not necessary for the latter. The conclusion is that the calculations should yield a reasonable estimate in the expected range.
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Homework Statement



Mass of moon - 7.3 x 10^22 kg
Mass of Earth - 6.0 x 10^24
distance between moon and Earth - 356400 km
change in distance 4 cm

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I just need to check if my answer is correct, I get some thing to the power 28, using the equation GMm/r

Is my answer reasonable?
 
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You should get something to the 28 for the potential energy at 356400 km. Now move it 4cm and find a new potential. You will need to keep a lot of digits because most will subtract out when you find the difference between the two potentials.
 


flatmaster said:
You should get something to the 28 for the potential energy at 356400 km. Now move it 4cm and find a new potential. You will need to keep a lot of digits because most will subtract out when you find the difference between the two potentials.

I get something to the power 28 when I use the formula:
for r in meters,
-GMm/r - ( - GMm/(r+4x10^-2)

so is the value I got wrong then?
 


By the way do I need to find the potential (i.e. GM/r) or the potential energy (GM m(moon) )/r ?
 


-GMm/r

This itself should be about 10^28 if you do an order of magnitude estimate

- GMm/(r+4x10^-2)

This also be around 10^28 and be very close to the previous value.

It should be so close because r changed by only about 0.00001% This means that there should be a large number of digits that subtract out between the two numbers.

Your initial post said potential energy, so I think that's what you need. You wouldn't need the moon's mass to find potential.
 
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