What is the Coefficient of Friction for a Braking Car with Given Parameters?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the coefficient of friction for a braking car based on given parameters, including mass, radius, initial speed, and braking force. Participants clarify the need to convert angular speed to linear speed and discuss the relevance of provided information like time and final velocity. One user derives an equation for the coefficient of friction, confirming its validity through unit simplification. Another user presents an alternative approach, calculating the deceleration and relating it to frictional force, ultimately concluding that the coefficient of friction is 0.6. The conversation highlights different methods to approach the problem while emphasizing the importance of understanding the underlying physics.
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Homework Statement



The car's wheel with mass 1kg and radius 0.3m has initial speed 40rad/s.
When braked, the force push to the center of the wheel is 10N.
The car stops after 2s.
Find coefficient.

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The Attempt at a Solution



This is what I did
Fc= Us.N= Us*m*g
so Us= Fc/mg

But why the problem gives so many information..about velocity..?
 
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you have "initial speed", find final velocity

you must convert 40rad/s to m/s

then from there, plug in

your equations are wrong unless i screwed up

i have

\mu_{k}=\frac{1}{g}(\frac{v^{2}}{R}-\frac{F}{m})

i simplified it so yours may look different.

EDIT: well i confirmed my equation by simplifying the units and all the units cancel out so seems like it's good, so i hope that helps.
 
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why they the time and final velocity, when stop?
 
rocophysics said:
your equations are wrong unless i screwed up
i have
\mu_{k}=\frac{1}{g}(\frac{v^{2}}{R}-\frac{F}{m})

EDIT: well i confirmed my equation by simplifying the units and all the units cancel out so seems like it's good, so i hope that helps.

How did you derive such relation? Would you mind explaining your steps?

@ camherokid:
I have a different line of thought:
Let initial angular speed be w = 40rad/s, radius of the wheel be r = 0.3m, mass of the wheel be M = 1kg, push-force be P = 10N, time be t = 2sec.

Speed of the centre of the wheel, v = w*r = 12m/s. {Assuming, no slipping.}

It has to stop in t = 2sec. Thus, final speed is zero.
Assuming uniform deceleration, a = (0 - v)/t = -v/t = -6m/s^2.

This deceleration will require an average force of magnitude, F = M*a = -M*v/t = -6N .

Now assuming this force comes only by friction, µ*P = -F. (As friction is in opposite direction; considering P to be positive.)

Thus, µ = M*v/(P.t) = (M*w*r)/(P*t) = 0.6

Therefore coefficient of friction, µ = 0.6
 
actually, it should have been. sign was backwards.

\mu_{k}=\frac{1}{g}(\frac{F}{m}-\frac{v^{2}}{R})

drew a force body diagram to get Normal force, but i never plugged in numbers.

gotta go to class, i'll check in 3-4 hrs.
 
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