What is the coefficient of kinetic friction for the incline?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the coefficient of kinetic friction for a 12kg block on a 35-degree incline, given its acceleration of 1.23457 m/s². The user initially calculated the normal force and net force but arrived at an incorrect coefficient of friction of 0.8462. Participants suggest using a free-body diagram and Newton's Second Law in vector form to clarify the forces acting on the block. The gravitational force is correctly identified as 117.6N, but confusion arises regarding the downward force and its relation to the net force. A systematic approach involving vector equations and constraints is recommended for accurate calculations.
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A 12kg block is released from rest on an inclined plane with angle 35. Acceleration of the block is 1.23457 The acceleration of gravity is 9.8m/2^2.

What is the coefficient of kinetic friction for the incline?


I found the normal force (12*9.8*cos35)=96.33228
Fnet=ma=12*1.23457=14.81484
Ff=N-Fnet=81.51744
So, I thought mu=Fnet/N=0.8462, but that answer is apparently wrong. Any ideas?
 
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missyjane said:
A 12kg block is released from rest on an inclined plane with angle 35. Acceleration of the block is 1.23457 The acceleration of gravity is 9.8m/2^2.

What is the coefficient of kinetic friction for the incline?


I found the normal force (12*9.8*cos35)=96.33228
Fnet=ma=12*1.23457=14.81484
Ff=N-Fnet=81.51744
So, I thought mu=Fnet/N=0.8462, but that answer is apparently wrong. Any ideas?

F_f+F_g+N=m\vec{a}

You know that the mass is 12kg, the and the acceleration 1.23457 m/s2. You know that the product of those two is equal to the frictional force + the downward force. The downward force is the sum of the gravitational force and the normal force. Make a few substitutions and you should have your answer.

Alex
 
Ok, so gravitational force is 9.8*12, right? That would be 117.6N. So the downward force is 117.6+96.33228=213.93228. But that means ma does not equal the product of the two. Where am I messing up?
 
missyjane said:
Ok, so gravitational force is 9.8*12, right? That would be 117.6N. So the downward force is 117.6+96.33228=213.93228. But that means ma does not equal the product of the two. Where am I messing up?
This will be much easier for you if you write it out with vectors. For this type of problem, try the following:

1. Draw a free-body diagram.
2. Write Newton's Second Law in vector form (important!).
3. Write an expression for each of the forces.
4. Write a scalar equation for each.
5. Express any constraints on your equations.
6. Solve the final system(s) of equations.
 
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