What Is the Correct Progressive Wave Equation for a Particle at Origin?

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The discussion revolves around the correct expression for the progressive wave equation for a particle located at the origin, specifically in the context of a wave moving in the positive Ox-direction. The original poster describes a scenario where the displacement of the particle at the origin is zero at time t=0, and the displacement-distance graph is characterized by a positive sine wave.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the form of the wave equation, questioning whether it should be y = A sin(ωt) or y = -A sin(ωt - kx). There is discussion about the implications of the sine graph's characteristics and the behavior of the wave at specific points in time and space.

Discussion Status

Some participants are providing clarifications regarding the amplitude and the nature of the sine function, while others are questioning the assumptions made about the wave's behavior at the origin and its relationship to the displacement-distance graph. Multiple interpretations of the wave equation are being explored without reaching a consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the amplitude, wavelength, and frequency of the wave, which are relevant to the discussion but may not be fully integrated into the original poster's reasoning. There is an acknowledgment of potential inconsistencies in the original poster's assumptions about the wave's behavior at specific points.

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Homework Statement


A wave moving in the positive Ox-direction has displacement of particle of 0 at the origin, O at time = 0.The displacement-distance graph showed a positive sine graph.
Write an expression for the variation of the displacement y with time t for the particle at O.


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My book said that for the particle at O, the equation of motion of particle is y= A sin (ωt).
But shouldn't it be y= -A sin (ωt -kx) and when x=0, the equation became y=-A sin(ωt) since the particle at O must move down for the wave to propagate to the right hand side.

And if its y= A sin (ωt - kx), at t=0 and the x=λ/4, then displacement is negative. This is inconsistent with the positive sine graph of displacement-distance graph.

Someone please lend me a hand on this, Thanks a lot.
 
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Do you not understand that "A" is an arbitrary constant which may be, itself, either poisiitive or negative>?

I can make no sense at all out of "if it's y= A sin (ωt - kx), at t=0 and the x=λ/4" There was no mention of λ before this. Where did that come from?
 
Okay. I will provide more details. The positive sine graph of displacement-distance graph has amplitude of 3 and wavelength of 4 meter while frequency is 2.5 Hz.
Therefore, the displacement against t for particle at O given by book is y=3 sin (5ωt).

For your doubt, I assume that when t=0 and the x=λ/4, y= 3 sin (-pi/2) which is negative value. But the positive sine graph of displacement-distance graph at t=0, showed a positive displacement of 3 when its is λ/4 away from O.

Shouldn't it be y= -3sin wt for particle at O?
 
If 'positive sine graph' means that for small x > 0, y > 0, then I agree: if the sine wave moves towards increasing x then at 0 it must be descending, so y = -|A|sin wt.
 
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