What is the dielectric constant of the slab on a parallel plate capacitor ?

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The discussion revolves around determining the dielectric constant of a slab inserted into a parallel-plate capacitor that initially contains air. The problem involves understanding the relationship between charge, capacitance, and dielectric materials.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between charge and capacitance before and after the insertion of the dielectric slab. There are attempts to derive the dielectric constant using different equations and approaches, including the ratio of charges and capacitance changes. Questions arise regarding the dependence of capacitance on the dielectric constant and the implications of voltage changes.

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Various interpretations of the problem are being discussed, with some participants suggesting different methods to calculate the dielectric constant. There is a lack of consensus on the correct approach, and participants are questioning the assumptions made regarding voltage and capacitance.

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Participants are navigating through the implications of inserting a dielectric material and how it affects the electric field and voltage in the capacitor. There is uncertainty regarding the initial conditions and the definitions of capacitance with and without the dielectric.

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Homework Statement


When a certain air-filled parallel-plate ca-
pacitor is connected across a battery, it ac-
quires a charge (on each plate) of magnitude
214 μC. While the battery connection is
maintained, a dielectric slab is inserted into
the space between the capacitor plates and
completely fills this region. This results in
the accumulation of an additional charge of
272 μC on each plate.

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What is the dielectric constant of the slab?


Homework Equations



i used
k= Uf/Ui
where
Uf=Q2^2/2C
Ui=Q1^2/2C

The Attempt at a Solution



what i did is that i k=[Q2^2/2C]/[Q1^2/2C] .. in this case the 2C will cancel each other .. we will be left out with k=[Q2^2/Q1^2] .. which as a result gave me 1.61551

i really don't know were I am going wroing .. so please help mee !

thanx in advance
 
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I would take a step by step approach.

1. By how much did the capacitance increase in the second case from the first case?

2. How does the capcitance depend upon the dielectric constant in the case of a parallel plate capacitor?

3. Therefore, what must the increase in dielectric constant of the gap have been?
 
i didnt undcerstand :confused:
 
shouldn't the dielectric constant be like; k=C/Co?
where C is the capacitance with the dielectric material in between the plats and Co the same but in vaccum
 
Ok

so it will be k= Q/Qo.. were the volt cancel each other
 
no, I don't think V is the same, there is Vo and V, where V is less than Vo [due to the inverse electric field induced by putting the dielectric material in the capacitor, which reduces the main E, thus the sum of E is less than before and as a result the applied voltage decreases as well]
 

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