What is the difference in applying -ve voltage at emitter and +ve coll

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The discussion revolves around the differences in applying negative voltage at the emitter versus positive voltage at the collector in a circuit, specifically in the context of Emitter-Coupled Logic (ECL) circuits. Participants explore how these voltage configurations affect the operation of the circuits, particularly in terms of input voltage ranges and transistor behavior.

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Main Points Raised

  • Devanand T questions the differences between applying negative voltage at the emitter and positive voltage at the collector, suggesting that the circuits appear identical.
  • One participant notes that the power supply voltages influence the necessary input voltages, indicating that the transistor's state can change based on the grounding of the negative supply line.
  • Another participant identifies that the circuit in (a) is a basic ECL unit, specifying input voltage ranges of -1.7 V and -0.8 V for logic states.
  • There is a reiteration that while circuit (b) may function similarly, it does not operate with the same input/output voltages as circuit (a).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of voltage polarity in the circuits, and the discussion does not reach a consensus on the operational differences between the two configurations.

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There are unresolved questions regarding the specific operational ranges and conditions under which each circuit configuration functions effectively, as well as the implications of grounding the negative supply line.

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What is the difference in applying -ve voltage at emitter and +ve voltage at collector in attached circuit image? Really what I think is both circuits in thae image are identical. But then why -VEE?

-Devanand T
 

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The power supply voltages also affect the necessary input voltages.

For example in the second diagram, the transistor with -1.3 volts on its base will be turned off if the negative supply line is grounded but it is conducting if this line is at -5.2 volts.

This is because the base is more positive than the negative supply line in the second case, but less positive in the first case.
 


dexterdev said:
What is the difference in applying -ve voltage at emitter and +ve voltage at collector in attached circuit image? Really what I think is both circuits in thae image are identical. But then why -VEE?

-Devanand T
Over what range of input voltages will the arrangement in (a) function as an amplifier?

What about (b)?
 


the circuit in (a) is basic ECL unit, range of inputs is 2 logic states at input -1.7 V and -0.8 V.

I was asking that what difference (a) has with (b) in voltage supply applied in terms of polarity.
 
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dexterdev said:
the circuit in (a) is basic ECL unit, range of inputs is 2 logic states at input -1.7 V and -0.8 V.

I was asking that what difference (a) has with (b) in voltage supply applied in terms of polarity.
(b) will function in the same manner, but not with the input/output voltages that cause (a) to work.
 

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