What is the effect on conrod forces?

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The discussion centers on the balancing of conrods in engine machining, particularly the impact of weight distribution on dynamic performance. The original poster, Damien, explores whether balancing the big end caps separately affects overall balance, despite a friend's assertion that it does not. Damien emphasizes the importance of weight placement beyond the center of the rod's eye, questioning if uneven mass distribution could influence engine dynamics even if end weights are equal. He notes his own precision in measurements and expresses a desire to improve his balancing technique with new scales. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the complexities of conrod balancing and its potential effects on engine performance.
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Quite a number of years ago I was speaking to a friend (Greg) who did engine machining work for some semi professional race teams and individuals. I was questioning him on how best to balance conrods. ( From what I had gathered off the internet from a multiple of different sites, and after learning how the different harmonics influence 'engine balance' I learned to balance the rods end for end. After multiple different trial and error attempts at balancing ends of the rods I had, I was struck by something which has stuck with me till today. Its the effect of weight located passed the the centre point of the eye or big end of either end of the rod in question.
If I had a rod on the scales measuring the weight of the little end being supported at the 'eyes' centre, if I added exactly 1 gram to the very farthest point on the little end, the effect of that 1 gram 'should' reduce the big end weight by a very small amount, and vice versa.)

So the question I posed to Greg was do you balance the big end caps separately first, then do the rest of the rods? He said "No, it makes no difference."

I can't help but think that it must make a difference, even if it is minute. Mind you, he was balancing his 'engines' to within 1 gram end to end, and the setup I had was repeatable to less than a 1/2 of that. So possibly the results were not showing up in his measurements.
So, my question is, even if a rod is balanced end for end exactly, does it make a difference to anything dynamically (other than stress inside the rod) that the mass is not evenly distributed? If the end weights are the same, the centre of gravity would be in the same spot, so in theory the crank wouldn't notice any difference, or am I missing something?

Thanks guys.Damien
 
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