What is the frequency of the wave reflected by the fish?

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The discussion focuses on determining the frequency of a sonar wave reflected by a school of fish moving towards a stationary boat. The original poster believes that the frequency reflected by the fish is the same as the frequency received, calculated as ((v + u) / v) x f. There is confusion regarding whether the question pertains to the frequency perceived by the fish or by an observer on the boat. Clarification is sought on whether the answer should reflect the frequency as sensed by the fish acting as a new sound source or by a stationary observer. The conversation emphasizes the need to understand the context of the frequency measurement in relation to the movement of the fish and the boat.
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Homework Statement


A stationary boat emits a sonar wave of frequency f to a school of fish which is moving a velocity u towards the boat. The sonar wave is then reflected by the school of fish. If v is the velocity of the sonar wave in water, the frequency of the wave reflected by the fish is


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My ans is same as the working (first part) . I can't understand with the 2nd part . in my opinion, the frequency reflected by the fish is same as the frequency received by the fish . my ans is (( v+u)/ v ) x f . why ? is my concept wrong?
 

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somecelxis said:

Homework Statement


A stationary boat emits a sonar wave of frequency f to a school of fish which is moving a velocity u towards the boat. The sonar wave is then reflected by the school of fish. If v is the velocity of the sonar wave in water, the frequency of the wave reflected by the fish is


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The Attempt at a Solution


My ans is same as the working (first part) . I can't understand with the 2nd part . in my opinion, the frequency reflected by the fish is same as the frequency received by the fish . my ans is (( v+u)/ v ) x f . why ? is my concept wrong?
Is it asking for the frequency of the reflected wave as sensed by the fish (or equivalently, by an observer moving with the same velocity as the fish)? Or is it asking for the frequency of the reflected wave as sensed by a stationary observer?
 
SammyS said:
Is it asking for the frequency of the reflected wave as sensed by the fish (or equivalently, by an observer moving with the same velocity as the fish)? Or is it asking for the frequency of the reflected wave as sensed by a stationary observer?

hi , the question ask for the frequncy reflected by the school of fish am i right? now the fish act as the sound source... and the frequncy of the sound reflected by the fish = freuqency received by the fish . so i have (( v+u)/ v ) x f ... this is the whole question.

the sample ans is giving the frequncy of the sound heard by the observer on the boat after the reflection by the fish(source) ?am i right?
 
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