What is the Linear Equation for the Yield of an Orange Grove?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around deriving a linear equation that relates the number of orange trees planted in a grove to the yield per tree. Participants explore the implications of planting additional trees on yield, focusing on the mathematical formulation of the problem.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Participants note that the yield per tree decreases by about 20 oranges for each additional tree planted, leading to a linear relationship.
  • Some participants propose using the point-slope formula to derive the equation, identifying a point (100, 240) and a slope of -20.
  • There is a suggestion to create a system of linear equations based on the information provided in the problem.
  • One participant expresses personal challenges with converting word problems into equations, highlighting the importance of this skill in mathematics.
  • A later reply confirms the use of the point-slope formula and presents a derived equation: y = -20x + 2240.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the approach to derive the linear equation, but there is some confusion regarding the correct identification of the point and slope, with differing interpretations noted.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the initial conditions and the implications of the decrease in yield per tree, which may depend on further clarification of the problem's parameters.

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Imagine that you own a grove of orange trees, and suppose that from past experiences you know that when 100 trees are planted, each tree will yield about 240 oranges per year. Furthermore, you've noticed that when additional trees are planted in the grove, the yield per tree decreases. Specifically, you have noted that the yield per tree decreases by about 20 oranges for each additional tree planted.

Let y denote the yield per tree when x trees are planted. Find a linear equation relating x and y.

Can someone get me started?
 
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RTCNTC said:
Imagine that you own a grove of orange trees, and suppose that from past experiences you know that when 100 trees are planted, each tree will yield about 240 oranges per year. Furthermore, you've noticed that when additional trees are planted in the grove, the yield per tree decreases. Specifically, you have noted that the yield per tree decreases by about 20 oranges for each additional tree planted.

Let y denote the yield per tree when x trees are planted. Find a linear equation relating x and y.

Can someone get me started?

You are given a point on the line, and the slope...:D
 
Any linear function can be written in the form f(x)= ax+ b for constants a and b.

"you know that when 100 trees are planted, each tree will yield about 240 oranges per year."
So when x= 100, f(x)= 240: 240= a(100)+ b.

"Furthermore, you've noticed that when additional trees are planted in the grove, the yield per tree decreases. Specifically, you have noted that the yield per tree decreases by about 20 oranges for each additional tree planted."
So if x= 101, that is, if one more tree is planted, the yield per tree decreases from 240 to 240- 20= 220. [math]220= a(101)+ b[/math].

That gives you two equations to solve for a and b. (Notice that subtracting the second equation from the first immediately eliminates b.)
 
MarkFL said:
You are given a point on the line, and the slope...:D

Is the point (240, 100) and slope 20?

I then use the point-slope formula.

Yes?
 
HallsofIvy said:
Any linear function can be written in the form f(x)= ax+ b for constants a and b.

"you know that when 100 trees are planted, each tree will yield about 240 oranges per year."
So when x= 100, f(x)= 240: 240= a(100)+ b.

"Furthermore, you've noticed that when additional trees are planted in the grove, the yield per tree decreases. Specifically, you have noted that the yield per tree decreases by about 20 oranges for each additional tree planted."
So if x= 101, that is, if one more tree is planted, the yield per tree decreases from 240 to 240- 20= 220. [math]220= a(101)+ b[/math].

That gives you two equations to solve for a and b. (Notice that subtracting the second equation from the first immediately eliminates b.)

I like the way you created a system of linear equations in two variables from the given information in the word problem. I have been struggling with this for years. It is challenging for me to create an equation(s) given an application.

I believe this to be one of the best skills to learn in math. I recall taking a test at Bank One in 2006 for a Financial Advisor position that I really wanted at the time. I could not pass the test that involved more than 10 questions requiring the skill of converting word problems to equations leading to the right answer.

Good paying jobs, especially working with numbers and money, will require applicants to know basic word problems. I was told that my score was one of the lowest in the history of that particular bank. However, I did not give up on math. There is something about math that I really enjoy. I believe this to be the challenge of looking at a basic word problem like the sample with oranges and creating an equation that easily allows me to solve for x.
 
RTCNTC said:
Is the point (240, 100) and slope 20?

I then use the point-slope formula.

Yes?

No, the given point is (100, 240) and the slope is -20. :D
 
y - y_1 = m(x - x_1)

y - 240 = -20(x - 100)

y - 240 = -20x + 2000

y = -20x + 2000 + 240

y = -20x + 2240

Correct?
 

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