What is the mass of a car given work and velocity?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the mass of a car given the work done to accelerate it from 20.8 m/s to 29.3 m/s, requiring the application of energy equations. Participants express uncertainty about how to approach the problem without time or displacement, suggesting that the velocities provided are sufficient. The relevant energy equation is identified as 1/2mvf² - 1/2mvo² = work done, equating to 190,000 J. There is confusion regarding the signs and the distribution of terms in the equation, particularly noting that the left side will be negative if mass is positive. The conversation emphasizes the need for clarity in understanding how to manipulate the equation to isolate the mass.
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1. The problem statement,
all variables and given/known dataIt takes 190 kJ of work to accelerate a car from 20.8 m/s to 29.3 m/s. What is the car's mass?

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w=fd
f=ma
1/2mvf2-1/2mvo2=maΔx=FΔx

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not sure how to start this problem, because they don't give you time or displacement but you can probably work it out from the velocities I am assuming? just not 100% sure on how to
 
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Why do you think you need time or displacement?
 
Orodruin said:
Why do you think you need time or displacement?
Could you solve by going m=f/a ??
 
Erenjaeger said:
Could you solve by going m=f/a ??
No. Stop and think a bit about what your relevant equations are telling you about how the input parameters are related to what you want to know.
 
Orodruin said:
No. Stop and think a bit about what your relevant equations are telling you about how the input parameters are related to what you want to know.
in the third equation, using energy. Can somehow use that to solve for mass?
 
Erenjaeger said:
in the third equation, using energy. Can somehow use that to solve for mass?
You tell me. In order to solve for the mass, you need to know all other variables of the equation.
 
Orodruin said:
You tell me. In order to solve for the mass, you need to know all other variables of the equation.
the only other variables you need to know are the velocities right? which we are given
 
Erenjaeger said:
the only other variables you need to know are the velocities right? which we are given
So what is the solution?
 
Orodruin said:
So what is the solution?
1/2mv2-1/2mvo2=190000J
1/2m(20.8m/s)2-1/2m(29.3m/s)2 =190000J
1/2m432.64-1/2m858.49=190000J
m⋅216.64-m⋅429.245=190000J
is this correct so far?? not fully sure how to go any further if it is ?
 
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You are aware that multiplication is distributive, right?
x(y+z) = xy + xz
 
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Orodruin said:
You are aware that multiplication is distributive, right?
x(y+z) = xy + xz
yeah
 
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Erenjaeger said:
1/2m(20.8m/s)2-1/2m(29.3m/s)2 =190000J
The left hand side will clearly be negative, assuming mass is positive.
 
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